The Genii Forum

Tom Moore

Yeah er, there’s a lot of illusions where the method is revealed and disproven - I’ve yet to see a sub trunk where the magician didn’t ask the spectator to bang the lid “to check there’s no trapdoors or “that these handcuffs aren’t fake”

Tom Moore

It may be a poor representation of the show (and musically it's VERY "of its time") but my god the attention to detail, the nuances, the subtleties and the sheer technical prowess of the stage magic is astonishingly good; far higher than it needed to be and leagues ahead of 99% of the &quo...

Tom Moore

I'd have to go digging as it was 30 years ago but there was a Daniels / Bongo routine that was essentially the Piano trick on stage with people. As i referenced before David Williamson has done a lot of work in this area too so almost anything that jumps to the front of your mind now has probably al...

Tom Moore

I’m quite sure Jim has his own views on this but in my shows and research I’ve generally found that audiences don’t count during a routine so producing one or two “extra” assistants wouldn’t be noticed by 99% of the audience and the few that do pay enough attention to count would also notice the dou...

Tom Moore

If you think that's a misrepresentation then i suggest you go to a magic convention or go see /most/ stage magic performances and you'll discover that what that commercial shows is toned down from reality rather than played up. Magicians are the worst at understanding how they are perceived by audie...

Tom Moore

I would point out that the osborne plans are not really what you'd call "plans" - they're usually a couple of pages of 2D hand drawn sketches with some dimensions (but not others) and few proper construction method notes but with a huge caveat which basically says "make this in cardbo...

Tom Moore

I've just watched his act back (the official video is online) to make sure it was as i remember. I suggest before anyone else criticizes his act they take the time to watch it as considerably more is being made of it written down here than actually features in the routine. Poop emoji is a very very ...

Tom Moore

In fact, all it will do, if he continues to use it, is limit places he will work. As i understand it act he did was straight from his regular working show (as opposed to some of the other competitors who had clearly made a "competition act") where he's employed on regular contracts with s...

Tom Moore

A performer at the recent Family Entertainer of the Year Competition at Blackpool produced a turd as part of his act.

In his defence it was an emoji poop, it was presented as mischief/something that shouldn't be done & he did win the competition so clearly he's on to something.

Tom Moore

They have several different acts/routines - the nightmares act is much more traditional illusion show (with a narrative that gives it a purpose) whereas at the other end of the spectrum the “love after death” act (as seen at Blackpool this year) is very out there and unrepresentative of their other ...

Tom Moore

You need to understand the context and evolution of "the dove act" to appreciate a lot of what makes acts good or bad. Obviously that's a luxury most lay audiences don't have and magicians are phenomenally bad at conveying the history and context of the art which is why dove acts are gener...

Tom Moore

I'm particularly interested to see not only who ends up in the role but also who their shortlist is - the most respected "scholars" in magic are really not particularly scholarly when compared with professors in other fields and will quickly be found lacking by any educational institution ...

Tom Moore

Your refusal to answer the actual questions asked, combined with your endless self contradiction bores me now. Somewhere in the nonsense you have spewed forth there was an interesting topic to debate but it is abundantly clear you lack the skills and experience (both of real performance and proper d...

Tom Moore

David Copperfield may not be "lie free" but most of his ilusions are basically mime and choreography. Is he s puzzler? You clearly haven’t seen him work in the last 20 years then - the current show (his most successful financially and critically) has massive; explicit outright verbal lies...

Tom Moore

A show of trustworthyness, yes you're right. That audiences must trust & believe you on some level is correct - however being honest and trustworthy has absolutely nothing to do with others perceptions of trustworthyness; there are plenty of incredibly honest trustworthy people who (to others) s...

Tom Moore

If you check the background you’ll see that experiment has been largely discredited - the “experts” are first year students and the process of the experiment was very biased (the time they were given “red” they didn’t get to freely describe it but instead had to choose words from a list generated ba...

Tom Moore

That is a very poor characterisation of what I said. Feel free to provide a better, more succinct one then... No, I am saying that Society gradually catches on to how magicians do their thing (smoke and mirrors, sleeving, etc.) and will naturally realise that they lie as well. As it is unnecessary ...

Tom Moore

so you believe that audiences inevitably know how your tricks are done, not only on a superficial level but that they understand the fundamental mechanics of the methods chosen to such a degree that they can differentiate between "necessary" lies and un-necessary ones and that finally they...

Tom Moore

Would you please answer my question - if audiences are going to inevitably discover the lies of your moves and mechanisms then why do you feel that they will be very upset at catching verbal lies but not upset at catching physical ones?

Tom Moore

Lies are a "let down". And people are going to find out about them, just as surely as they are going to eventually discover the moves and the mechanisms. 1) this tells us more about your performance ethos than you realise 2) if audiences are going to inevitably discover the lies of your m...

Tom Moore

Again I have to stress that my issue here is the term “expert” I don’t doubt that the average wine drinker half drunk at a social gathering would be completely fooled (and not very critical) of miscoloured wine. However anyone who is an “expert” really wouldn’t be - by definition if they were then t...

Tom Moore

Ah ok, so when you said expert, you don't actually mean expert.

Now I understand

Tom Moore

Someone who cannot tell the difference between red wine and white wine with colouring in it cannot possibly be considered an expert; a wine expert could immediately recognise the grape variety used and know whether it was commonly presented as a red or white. A wine expert would also have a sufficie...

Tom Moore

The OP refers to convincers that will fool "experts" which heighten the effect. If someone cannot tell the difference between red and white wine (blindfolded or not) then they are by absolutely no measure at all an "expert" at wine - what is being suggested is the equivalent of s...

Tom Moore

If you’re hanging around with the sort of people who can’t tell the difference between red wine and white wine with dye in it then they definitely aren’t the “wine experts” you repeatedly claim the subtleties in this method will fool.

Tom Moore

The primary definition is "An intentionally false statement". You are using the common vernacular, the sort that misintertprets it as "Anything false or untrue". So to revert to my example - saying "lets bury your card in the middle of the deck" after top-changing it i...

Tom Moore

So when a magician takes a spectators signed selected card, places it in the centre of the deck, squares the deck and does "absolutely nothing" (classic pass) yet it suddenly pops up on top of the deck when he clicks his fingers you're saying that that isn't a lie, but if he does a double ...

Tom Moore

I consider The Art of Magic a challenge. The performer creates a mystery, and the viewer tries to solve it. If you consider magic to be a challenge then a) it's not an art b) it's no wonder audiences call out your lies since you're entering the performance with that in mind. Plenty of us create mag...

Tom Moore

There are 101 other factors in your performance that impact how your audience perceive you (and magic in general) far more than the legitimacy and authenticity of the precise syntax you use. A magician with terrible BO who forces his performance on a group of spectators who just want to be left alon...

Tom Moore

It's a good solid show with good solid performers- it's toured annually in the uk for many years - you'll have a fine time seeing it. In terms of budget/scale/production it sits below "The Illusionists" and above "Masters of Illusion" though it actually predates both of them by s...

Tom Moore

You'll notice the ad copy talks extensively about using the light for effects off-camera and in the background - With the exception of some incredibly expensive high end theatre lights (that literally have millions of dollars research and thousands of dollar's components) LED lighting isn't suitable...

Tom Moore

What sort of distance and what level of control (wireless, timer, someone pushing a button) - we've got units "off the shelf" but they are high-end and intended for automation integration so may be more precise and featured than you're needing.

Tom Moore

We're getting in to really heavy design theory and persnickety details here... Bill - I'm fully aware of the tablecloth and how they used it in the demo video. I can also say as someone familiar with the technology (though not in any way connected with this table) that whilst it is helping in their ...

Tom Moore

Fabrice - Yes i have seen the table; you need to read my answers more carefully as i am talking about the law and design aspects of this table & other technologies that invented BEFORE Lubor's invention. The Table isn't EXACTLY the same as the tenyo prop because that requires the striped backdro...

Tom Moore

Again I refer you to my previous comment that it is clear the CS table was influenced by Lubor and their lack of up-front crediting is a little odd (this from someone who usually releases a 300+word summary of the influences and incorporated technologies of everything I "invent") and which...

Tom Moore

I have to refer you to my repeated statements the Lubor did have a significant invention element to this, that no one else had used this specific technology in the same way before, etc he found an unusual way to utilise existing technology and principles to make a new magic trick idea and again woul...

Tom Moore

specifically using the technique in a magic trick almost identically & on a similar scale- there's none. But other technologies using this lens system to mask and reveal objects there's plenty. As i referenced before early generation autostereoscopic monitors that i played with a lot use EXACTLY...

Tom Moore

The lense is doing more than one thing and the parallels with what it does with the path of light and some of the other inventions mentioned are remarkable. I'm also 99% sure that the "existing product" he used as his jump off point was the raw material used in one of the existing inventio...

Tom Moore

First and second generation Autostereoscopic 3D (that's tv and movie screens that enable you to see 3D without wearing any glasses or a headset) all use a lenticular / linear lens system in a similar way to lubor lens (taking a beam of light and bending/shifting in 1 plane whilst giving the impressi...

Tom Moore

Bill It is safe to say the patent on this has been abandoned and expired - according to the records it's almost 10 years since the patent owners or their agents actually had any interaction with the patent office about this patent and multiple reminders and deadlines have passed on it so clearly the...

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