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Tom Sawyer

Apologies for not replying sooner. I will list a copy of the book on eBay today or tomorrow, and then you may purchase if you so desire.

If someone else orders first (HIGHLY unlikely), I will list another copy.

Thanks for your interest,

Tom Sawyer

Tom Sawyer

Hi All,

Today I took down my S.W. Erdnase blog for the time being (for personal reasons).

I expect that this will be a temporary situation. (But I probably won’t put it back for at least six months.)

—Tom Sawyer

Tom Sawyer

Hi All, I have been thinking a little about “confirmation bias” and the S.W. Erdnase case. The term has been mentioned several times on this thread, and in doing a search, I see (though I had no recollection of it) that a post by me was one of nine or so posts to mention that phrase. It strikes me a...

Tom Sawyer

I presume that the gentleman whose name appears on the inside front cover was Jacob Chasnoff.

Tom Sawyer

Hi All, Concerning Steve Burton’s post above, one of the interesting things about the theory was that it appeared in 1989, and no matter how you calculate it, that is more than a year before the appearance of The Man Who Was Erdnase . And it is a rather clever theory. Dick Hatch alluded to this matt...

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Hi All, Another game that Erdnase mentions (page 75), namely “Coon Can,” may raise issues similar to those presented by Pinochle. From what Foster says in his 1897 Foster’s Complete Hoyle , that work contains the game’s “first complete description,” though that was under the name “Conquian” (without...

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Oh, and by way of supplementing what I just said, I might think, "Hmmm. Maybe the mysteries I am seeing are based on the magician telling me he has done the impossible, rather than him actually doing the impossible." But if he flops the cards down and I see five aces instead of four, I mer...

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Speaking theoretically, I would be more disappointed if I heard a magician say, "This hat is empty," if I could see plainly a cannonball residing therein -- than I would be if I simply saw him drop a cannonball into a profonde . If I saw the cannonball in the hat, the disappointment would ...

Tom Sawyer

In case anyone wants to look up the relevant information in TMWWE, I suspect that the main pages are 14 and 384 (note 13). The information there is fragmentary and conflicting.

Tom Sawyer

Hi All, I find the "bookplate in the book" issue and the "price on the title page" issue to be of continuing fascination, because in both instances the facts are rather complex, and it is difficult to discern precisely how those items of proof should be interpreted and applied. T...

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I gather that Baum edited a periodical on window decorating, out of that address, for at least a time. ( N.W. Ayer & Son's American Newspaper Annual , 1901, via Google Books, from an example at the University of Michigan [digitized by Google]. ) Not sure whether his time there overlapped with Dr...

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Bill, I tend to view the Erdnase problem as I might view a horse race. (I was formerly extremely interested in perimutuel betting. And actually that interest is merely napping; it isn't dead.) Anyway, I can look at the Erdnase candidates as I might horses a race. The bettor (within his skill level) ...

Tom Sawyer

Hi All, I have not read everything in this thread. However, I do at least see an “issue” here — as, I gather, Mark Lewis and maybe others do as well. In support of the view that is opposite to the view that seems generally expressed on this thread, I quote the following, from the enlarged version of...

Tom Sawyer

Hi All, I am not sure exactly where this thread is going, but I think there are genuine "issues" that exist, and that it is axiomatic that not everyone is going to agree. In a mind-reading act, for example, I am not sure what the present-day thinking is regarding this subject. If I recall ...

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Hi All, Concerning Bill Mullins’s post of 19:11 yesterday . . . Personally, I like the fact that Gallaway owned a copy of the book. That fact makes his candidacy a little more exciting than it otherwise would be. But since knowledge of Gallaway’s ownership of the book preceded Gallaway’s candidacy, ...

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Hi All, All right, since the Erdnase lull continues, here are a few words about Cab No. 44 , a 1910 novel by R.F. Foster. It appears that this was first mentioned in the Erdnase world by Dick Hatch on a different thread in 2003, then on this thread in 2005, first by Bill Mullins, and then by Dick ag...

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Hi All, During a lull like the present one, it might be interesting for people to think about what kinds of features make a candidate a “leader,” or for that matter, about the kinds of things that make a person a candidate at all. Such features often have little to do with the strength of a candidat...

Tom Sawyer

Dick, those are all good points (at least, as of now!), and I think I had most of that in mind, even though I only focused on two or three things.

--Tom S.

Tom Sawyer

Speaking of "candidate viability" . . . Richard Hatch recently mentioned a candidate suggested by Peter Zenner, namely E.D. Benedict. Benedict has not been discussed much (so far!) on this thread, but it is interesting to me that he has been catapulted into being one of the leading candida...

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Just a reminder that Professor Hoffmann also described the "Thee Card Trick" in Modern Magic , which of course preceded the description in More Magic . Without getting into details, the Modern Magic version (pages 76-77) is simpler, but it does go into the "bent corner" addition,...

Tom Sawyer

Setting aside Gallaway's copy of The Expert at the Card Table, I am led to wonder exactly (a) what gambling books, if any, and (b) what magic books, if any, are known to exist with Gallaway's bookplate in them.

Tom Sawyer

Bill, thanks for the clarification on that! --Tom

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Bill, in connection with a hypothetical above, you said: The probability that Gallaway would use it 3 times if he wrote like Erdnase is 0.014. The probability that Erdnase would use it 5 times if he wrote like Gallaway is 0.175. If you are saying "3 times in 30,000 words ," and "5 tim...

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Ha ha. Of course, in case anyone is wondering, until today I actually had no clue that one of our Vice Presidents had that name.

Tom Sawyer

Pretty sure that's supposed to repesent Levi P. Morton, who (as everybody knows) was Vice President of the United States at the time of the cartoon.

Tom Sawyer

Hi All, I'm sure that this post will scroll-away quickly, and maybe that is for the best. I did discuss Teale on my Erdnase blog, but I am not sure what my "argumentation" was that was referred to by Chris. It's plain to me that Chris approached the problem from the opposite direction from...

Tom Sawyer

Leo, that (in my opinion) is an excellent point on the Dalrymple situation. I had forgotten that argument (that Sanders could well have thought the picture depicted his dad, whether it did or not), but if I had remembered it, I would have mentioned it in my post above on this issue. But when you get...

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Bill: That is a difficult question. I actually think there is a decent chance that it is supposed to represent W.F. Sanders. But see below. In Rethinking S.W. Erdnase , I said: Personally, I think it is supposed to be Wilbur Fisk Sanders, for various reasons. To me, it looks pretty much like him. An...

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Hi All, This post has to do with the s-for-r substitution. Chris above indicates that it is clear that the s-for-r "was an accidental substitution." The reason stated was that if it were NOT accidental, there would be other examples within the book. That might be so, but if it is, it appea...

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Hi All, Concerning the “P.S.” in the previous post, I quote the following from my 2015 book Rethinking S.W. Erdnase . I have placed in boldface some of the more relevant portions: One of the topics I have long found of interest is that of the role of printers (of a century or more ago) in seeing to ...

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In looking at the above comments (regarding proofreading) by Clay, Richard, Brad, and Chris, I think all of the remarks make sense, even though in part some statements may seem to contradict others. It’s fairly well-known (at least, it’s not a secret) that someone in New York (that is, not Professor...

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I think there are several lists of mistakes in The Expert at the Card Table , and I suspect that the best one is in Marty Demarest’s edition (or editions) of the book. Clay makes a particularly good point about mistakes being more easily spotted by the author than by anyone else. But it occurs to me...

Tom Sawyer

Hi All, I guess that what we are talking about at the moment, boiled down, is as follows: 1. What the reasonable theories are that would explain what might be referred to as the "six-month gap" between (a) the manufacture of the book and (b) the earliest evidence that copies were being dis...

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I brought this up on one of my blogs a couple of years ago, and somewhat in my Rethinking S.W. Erdnase , and I don’t think anyone every tried to dispute anything about it. I thought I might mention it here. I think most would agree that a reasonable estimate of the specific date of publication of Th...

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Chris said: Most people do not know their relationships further out than great-grandparents . . . That is a very good point, but in the present case, with all of the additional facts concerning geographical proximity and such, it occurs to me that this may well be a case where someone was indeed fam...

Tom Sawyer

This is in response to something Chris said a few posts above concerning the issue of whether there were before-the-fact standards of closeness set forth by anyone concerning the Dollie/Dalrymple relationship. Richard Hatch has in more than one place on this thread mentioned the first-or-second-cous...

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Hi All! Bill Mullins, thanks for the shout-out above! Thanks for the reference to the blog. For those who haven’t visited the blog lately, here is a little orientation. Even though I have converted it into one that deals with older magic books more generally, it does so happen that the three most re...

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Hi All, I don’t know whether the discussion of kerning and Gutenberg were essential in this context, but I am in full agreement with Chris’s statement that . . . “...the reverse italic 'a' was a typesetter technique to produce a better looking title on the cover. ... It simply looks a bit better thi...

Tom Sawyer

Richard, tonight I mailed you a copy of that book (as a little gift). I hope you will enjoy looking through it. I stopped selling copies of the first printing late last year. It was a pretty small printing. (I received 51 copies from the printer.) I'll probably have it reprinted someday.

--Tom

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I was searching the Genii forum for references to The Boy’s Own Conjuring Book , and I did find references to it. But in my search, one or more posts in this thread came up. Honestly, I was a little surprised to see me hawking my books in this thread in such an undisguised manner. So, inspired by my...

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