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Dick Hatch is a terrific magician and a great guy! For those interested, the book that he references in the video can be found here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/148027478X/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1 The annotated version: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/148263869X/r...

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Fair point, Mr. Ross. I appreciate your respectful reply (and thanks for teaching the next gen!). If I came across as disrespecting anyone's intelligence or right to debate here, I clearly made an error in doing so and I certainly apologize for that. I support people, regardless of gender, who wish ...

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I reread this entire thread just because I haven't had a headache in a while and I thought it might be as fun as I remembered--I was wrong. ;) With respect to all, I think the overarching point is fair when considering the use of a more inclusive term to refer to a group. IMHO, there is certainly no...

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Bill Mullins wrote:Darwin Ortiz? Jason Ladanye? (but I wouldn't categorize either of them as "stage" magicians)

Earlier in his career, Jon Armstrong wrote he performed exclusively cards, but I think he was close-up and parlour mostly as well.

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Anthony Vinson wrote:Ricky Jay?

I thought of him as well, but remembered he featured also cups and balls, flea circus, etc.

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Jackpot wrote: An alien with tentacles is most certainly a spaceman, but he can't hold a little finger break so not all spacemen can be cardmen.

Hold on a second.

"SpaceMAN?" I'm not sure aliens from another planet would like that term.

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Max Maven wrote:The Billy Cunningham books outshine the Valentine series. You’ll like.

Mr. Maven, is there a particular Billy Cunningham book you'd recommend starting with or should they be read in order? (I have an upcoming trip and I'm looking for something to read on the plane). Thanks!

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Looks great! Mr. Hollingworth is one of my heroes!

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Wow! Strong work!
https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/ ... 898726002/

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Craig makes outstanding Okito boxes, worth checking into if interested in coin box effect. Craig's a great guy too (Craig send the $5 to my Paypal please). Amen, to that--- As I've written previously, Craig made a set for me that is just amazing. They not only look great, but they handle perfectly....

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RK:
Do you envision the original material being kept separate from the new material or will new items be included in some of the original chapters? Will the original format of the material remain or will there be a new format throughout?

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Ugh...sorry...no offense intended. (I actually like that book)

Regardless, I look forward to the new Greater Magic!

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Hmmm...this project sounds like it's being done in the spirit of what Harry Lorayne did with Tarbell 7 back in the day--bringing into the light some of the yet to be published original stuff, but lots of current stuff described in stylistically consistent manner. Sounds exciting! Just spitballin' he...

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I just read what I wrote yesterday, and I hate it. If I take those arguments to their conclusion, then maybe they should just price it at $10,000 to keep it out of the hands of the "animals" (to quote a certain alleged conversation) or maybe never publish it at all. The landscape of magic ...

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I would gladly stipulate than 1) the whole is greater than the cost of the parts and 2) the creators deserve to try to earn as much money as possible for their efforts. Given that, I have a question: would it have been better for the state of magic as a whole if the book were priced lower to allow a...

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Hi, Andrew -- welcome, and thanks for the update!

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I believe he was also a champion body builder in his youth as well.

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Strangely, I can't get the link to work---did they move?

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I just find it a bit ironic that we are rather passionately discussing something that 99% of us haven't even read yet. Some are discussing the specific book and whether it is too expensive or not; and some are discussing the broader principles (for which discussion you don't have to read The Magic ...

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Richard: Will Genii possibly be publishing an excerpt of this book? I hope so, as having a taste of the contents might provide some context for the discussion. Right now, all most of us have are non-specific magic celebrity endorsements and previous works to go by. (Am I the only person who finds so...

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Hello:
Looking for a Soft Morgan Expanded Shell Set. Specifically, I'm looking for a set made by either Lassen or Schoolcraft.

If you have a set in great shape, please PM me and perhaps we can make a deal!

Thanks!

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It seems that Steve Shufton asked many of the same questions when designing his box: https://www.shufton.com/Magic/Okito_Box/okito_box.html You may wish to consider his thoughts as you design your own. Also, as a respectful counterpoint, Roth doesn't even try to explain what an Okito Box is: in his ...

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Since you asked for suggestions: if he has the time, I think that Bill Mullins would be superb!
If not Bill, then Dodd Vickers comes to mind.

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Hi, Curtis: Points well taken. (The reason why I assumed he used the same presentation in his shows is due to the clip that JT posted above from Oake's own ITV Christmas special, which seemed to be a very similar presentation to that used on AGT. Granted, this was also TV, so maybe live, he does use...

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Curtis: I have been thinking about your last comment for several days. You are correct: it did not occur to me the Blaine's deadpan presentation was part of what got the reactions. So, that made me think about the differences between Blaine and the presentation under discussion. I think one of the b...

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This is very helpful to me. So, if I am reading this correctly: a well-executed, casual, toss transfer, coupled with a presentation/construction that doesn't make the important into something important will go a long way to short circuiting the innate suspicion of the other hand. I have some specifi...

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If you are interested in this effect, you may want to check out Kenna Thompson's website auction site today.

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OK, let's stipulate the spider grip vanish is "bloody horrible" for purposes of the question. Nevertheless, there are some very accomplished coin magicians: Roth, Latta, Swiss, Kohler, Gallo, Skinner, Dingle, Bertram, etc. who have used it to great effectiveness. If we are to accept that a...

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Fascinating discussion--very much enjoying this.

I have question: if it is true that spectators do not immediately suspect the other hand after a coin vanish, then wouldn't the spider grip (double feint) vanish be ineffective?

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Glad to have cleared the Carney quote, Alfred. So according to Carney, you look at the object getting transferred? to the other hand. Then you look up at the audience while you make the transfer, then back down at the completion of the transfer to open the fingers and display the vanish. Be that as...

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The link isn't working for here in the UK. What magician are you referring to, please? Darcy Oake. He did a really impressive suspension, with little to no presentation. Curtis: My perception of Blaine was that he was successful because he used minimal presentation to allowed the home audience to f...

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I'll start by saying that Mr. Oake is a talented, successful guy and he's fooled and entertained me several times when I've seen him. However, in his evaluation at the end of the act, self-proclaimed magic lover, Simon Cowell makes an spot-on observation: https://www.nbc.com/americas-got-talent/vide...

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For reference: https://www.nbc.com/the-tonight-show/vi ... ts/3900355

I generally enjoy the Dan White spots, and I'm pleased that Fallon lets him on The Tonight Show regularly (since Jay was not a magic fan).

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...on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

At least according to his TV son: https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/t ... -Hollywood

I always liked Bill Bixby as an actor and was surprised to learn he doesn't have a star.

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I believe in the Vernon routine an appearance of a ball always immediately precedes the load. This makes sense: if a cup is lifted and there is nothing there, the audience has literally nothing to focus on and its attention is defused. If a ball has appeared, then there is a subject for focus combi...

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I think it's what I've lost as a magician. Stuff like 4:20 (and the seemingly unmotivated reaching into the Gib to adjust the melon in preparation for the load) are what looks funny to me. If I were a layperson who sat down to think about this later, would I connect it to those actions? I can't say ...

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Thanks, Mr. Kendall, for your real world perspective on this! I appreciate this very much.

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Didn't Max Maven already write that one?

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Final loads serve two purposes; on the first hand, they are a visual shock which is the main part of the magic effect. A secondary effect is that they would not fit into the cups. I'm not a fan of the load being physically larger than the cup (for reasons best not started here), but it's impossible...

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For those that are into one of the in the hands monte routines, I wanted to mention this. In "Mo Monte" Max Maven has published two lines that may be of use to you. One is a perfect justification to do an in the hands routine. The second is a presentational justification for getting gaffed...

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