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by Bob Coyne
February 18th, 2020, 9:06 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7506
Views: 2249928

Re: ERDNASE

Benedict was 10 in 1870. The Genealogy of the Benedicts in America was published in that year. Edward's family is listed on page 153 and a family of Dalrymples is listed on page 162. There was a link between the two names which could have been enough to make Edward believe that he might have been d...
by Bob Coyne
February 15th, 2020, 3:11 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7506
Views: 2249928

Re: ERDNASE

Roger M. wrote:Benedict is a legitimate candidate.

Gallaway is a ridiculous distraction best left alone back on Chris’s blog.

What are the main points for Benedict connecting him with Erdnase?
by Bob Coyne
February 15th, 2020, 1:40 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7506
Views: 2249928

Re: ERDNASE

Bob - your link in the post previous isn't working. Late-night network maintenance? Strange...I just now tested it in three different browsers browsers, and it worked. So maybe some temporary network glitch when you tried it. Here's the link as text (vs using the URL bbcode, in case that caused it ...
by Bob Coyne
February 15th, 2020, 1:08 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7506
Views: 2249928

Re: ERDNASE

The trouble with your theory is that it is based fundamentally on the name of the author. You start by assuming it is anagram, then look for Sanders and Andrews, etc. to find one that might have written book. The pen name, like many others of that ilk, is almost certainly is based on the reversed s...
by Bob Coyne
February 14th, 2020, 10:48 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7506
Views: 2249928

Re: ERDNASE

Again you are missing the point. You say all the elements are there--the reversed spellings, anagrams, and meaning of "Erdnase" as earth-nose. These are all hypotheses, not proven facts. We do not know that Erdnase is an anagram. It might be just German word. It might be just anagram, but...
by Bob Coyne
February 14th, 2020, 9:43 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7506
Views: 2249928

Re: ERDNASE

I think you are failing to get my point. I have not calculated the odds, but the chances of anybody re-arranging the letters of his name and getting an actual word or phrase are slight. To discover that this word is fitting to his character or his job is many times more unlikely. This is an absurd ...
by Bob Coyne
February 14th, 2020, 8:50 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7506
Views: 2249928

Re: ERDNASE

However--this is not the main problem with using "erdnase" to support Sanders. I would accept an argument that says Erdnase is anagram of Sanders. I would accept an argument that says Erdnase means hills and dales, so maybe a mining reference. But I reject argument that says is likely tha...
by Bob Coyne
February 12th, 2020, 7:18 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7506
Views: 2249928

Re: ERDNASE

Incidentally please remind me. I really don't want to wade back through all this. How did the artist describe Erdnase? I think that might be the best avenue to explore. Some of the key physical/behavioral attributes: - Short (5'5-5'7) and slight build - about 40 years old - blondish...not dark hair...
by Bob Coyne
February 12th, 2020, 12:28 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7506
Views: 2249928

Re: ERDNASE

Suppose you went through Martin Gardner's recollections of his interviews with Smith, and through the Smith-Gardner correspondence, and the limited recollections of the few other people who met Smith at the SAM convention, and listed everything that was said about Erdnase. You'd have a list of &quo...
by Bob Coyne
February 11th, 2020, 3:20 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7506
Views: 2249928

Re: ERDNASE

In my view, it's a long shot to bring this trick into mining context. Yes, Erdnase patters about "water or metals that lay hidden far under the ground" here, but also about "wonderful arts...by the ancients" and "the mysterious power of divining." To the best of my (li...
by Bob Coyne
February 10th, 2020, 6:59 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7506
Views: 2249928

Re: ERDNASE

In addition to the connection between Erdnase/earth-nose and Sanders' knowledge of German and profession of a prospector and mining engineer, there's another significant tie-in between Erdnase and mining. In the trick The Divining Rod, the patter centers around a mining-related theme, where a pen kn...
by Bob Coyne
February 4th, 2020, 6:59 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7506
Views: 2249928

Re: ERDNASE

[...] I agree the more distinctive phrasings (e.g. "cheap cards are clumsy") would be more significant, except that Hilliard clearly read Erdnase, so those phrases could have easily been rattling around in his head, if not deliberately copied. Certainly...most of those common short senten...
by Bob Coyne
February 4th, 2020, 4:24 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7506
Views: 2249928

Re: ERDNASE

Not sure about "simpler"...Perhaps more reasonable, yes, and I suggested that above. However, to play the devil's advocate, one could argue that very short phrases or sequences of words are unlikely to be deliberately borrowed from a given source, when in large number. We do tend to repea...
by Bob Coyne
February 4th, 2020, 11:56 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7506
Views: 2249928

Re: ERDNASE

I believe I first put forward is name in 2008, within this thread...I had no other reason except that he was a magician who ghost wrote AOM, and also worked for the Chicago Press and the Chicago Herald when he was young. Later in 2015 I compared sentences within AOM and EATCT: https://drive.google....
by Bob Coyne
February 4th, 2020, 2:02 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7506
Views: 2249928

Re: ERDNASE

Well, obviously his candidate is Hilliard, that’s the only person who matches all the clues. It’ll be interesting to see the evidence. Hilliard does seem to fit what's been revealed (well known figure; magic notebooks; look of the hands). I don't recall hearing any arguments for Hilliard being Erdn...
by Bob Coyne
February 2nd, 2020, 4:04 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7506
Views: 2249928

Re: ERDNASE

I think the relevance of Smith's recollections to a given candidate is combination of a) how much weight to give to Smith's memories generally b) how strong/specific the particular memory was and c) how closely his recollections match the candidate. i.e. it's not all or nothing but a weighting of fa...
by Bob Coyne
February 2nd, 2020, 1:30 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7506
Views: 2249928

Re: ERDNASE

Zig, I think there's a big different between remembering small visual details such as which way different picture cards face vs remembering the approximate age, height, race, sex, hair color, body build, etc of a person. If you remember a person at all, you'll generally remember those sorts of thing...
by Bob Coyne
February 1st, 2020, 11:41 am
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Announcement regarding new Steve Forte book
Replies: 132
Views: 12245

Re: Announcement regarding new Steve Forte book

I'm really looking forward to getting the book too. I don't care if it's a limited edition, an unlimited edition, or whatever. If it's published in any form whatsoever, it will accomplish the primary motive of this reader, as he needs the information!
by Bob Coyne
January 31st, 2020, 7:25 pm
Forum: Mentalism & Mental Magic
Topic: How does the tarot work?
Replies: 18
Views: 659

Re: How does the tarot work?

Thanks for posting this. I always assumed this is how the Tarot worked. I think he's claiming something as a big discovery that's really sort of obvious. It would be more interesting/informative if he showed an example of how it worked (e.g. how readings can go this way or that based on the card con...
by Bob Coyne
January 31st, 2020, 4:30 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7506
Views: 2249928

Re: ERDNASE

Is it possible that Rufus Steele wrote Expert at the Card Table? Perhaps with help from Dr. James Elliott? Has anyone already looked into him? Just a thought Ive had for awhile. I need time to read all 181 pages of this thread. Rufus Steele was born in 1881, which would have made him around 21 in 1...
by Bob Coyne
January 29th, 2020, 9:56 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7506
Views: 2249928

Re: ERDNASE

There are no photos of Erdnase performing sleights out of Expert. Just like the "annotated copy," this is wish fulfillment nonsense. There are published photos of person X (same guy) doing some card sleights, but he's not Erdnase. Right, the main question is what evidence he has that pers...
by Bob Coyne
January 29th, 2020, 1:57 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7506
Views: 2249928

Re: ERDNASE

"The Karr book, on the other hand, presents actual biographical/historical evidence pertaining to Erdnase's identity." Hahahahahaha. He's trying to sell books: it's ad copy. Could be...You clearly know quite a bit more about what's in the book beyond what's been publicly released. I was j...
by Bob Coyne
January 28th, 2020, 8:03 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7506
Views: 2249928

Re: ERDNASE

Forte must have some very compelling evidence regarding Erdnase otherwise there would be no way he would even publish it. It'll be interesting to see what Forte says and how it differs from and goes beyond Tony Giorgio's claims that Erdnase was a magician, not a gambler. I found Giorgio's arguments...
by Bob Coyne
January 28th, 2020, 3:18 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7506
Views: 2249928

Re: ERDNASE

In 2015, Karr posted this (in this thread): I'm pretty sure I've got my man. Charles L. Andrews aka Charles E. Andrews was later William G. Andrews, advance man for Alexander Herrmann, and wrote extensive articles describing card moves and effects in language and terms matching The Expert. I'm arran...
by Bob Coyne
January 28th, 2020, 12:13 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7506
Views: 2249928

Re: ERDNASE

It’s certainly enticing. From the email: ”(If you've followed some of my previous writings on the pseudonymously credited author, S. W. Erdnase, this is NOT colorful conman E. S. Andrews or any other lead I previously examined .)“ Bold italics mine. A brand new candidate? Given that the book will i...
by Bob Coyne
January 27th, 2020, 11:58 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7506
Views: 2249928

Re: ERDNASE

Thoughts on this announcement? https://www.miraclefactory.net/product/erdnase/?mc_cid=3a4f2069c5&mc_eid=7bdc162697 Wow! It sounds like a wealth of new evidence has been uncovered up and that the author has been definitively identified. Amazing and wonderful if true. I can't wait to find out more!
by Bob Coyne
January 26th, 2020, 12:02 am
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Announcement regarding new Steve Forte book
Replies: 132
Views: 12245

Re: Announcement regarding new Steve Forte book

Apparently, approximately 50% of the print run (of 1000) is gone already.
by Bob Coyne
January 23rd, 2020, 12:28 pm
Forum: Close-Up Magic
Topic: Prompted to Do an Impromptu (Card Trick)
Replies: 52
Views: 2234

Re: Prompted to Do an Impromptu (Card Trick)

I like to start with Alan Ackerman's Quick Coincidence. Spectator shuffles the deck. Performer pulls out a prediction card and places it face down on the table. The spectator then selects a card and places it half way into the squared deck. The prediction card and selection are then shown to be the ...
by Bob Coyne
December 19th, 2019, 2:46 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: A tv appearance
Replies: 14
Views: 1199

Re: A tv appearance

Good work! I'm curious about behind the scenes with this. Did you rehearse it with the host beforehand? And was he aware of the TT?
by Bob Coyne
December 13th, 2019, 12:23 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7506
Views: 2249928

Re: ERDNASE

I've recently come across another distinctive linguistic trait (and type of wordplay) shared by Erdnase and Sanders. They both exhibit a tendency to transform words from their common form into a non-standard and different part of speech. This results in quite unusual adverbs ( slantingly ) or verbs ...
by Bob Coyne
October 22nd, 2019, 11:17 am
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Shin Lim cancels in Vegas
Replies: 98
Views: 10884

Re: Shin Lim cancels in Vegas

I think "media magic" is a very useful term! It encapsulates something we've all seen, which leads to the question of what are some of the main attributes and techniques that distinguish media magic from merely presenting a regular magic routine on video? I think this applies to both the d...
by Bob Coyne
October 16th, 2019, 2:37 pm
Forum: Close-Up Magic
Topic: The Pass
Replies: 229
Views: 29441

Re: The Pass

I agree with Richard. It's not as though effects are totally separate from methods. If the method involves shuffling the cards, then the shuffling itself becomes part of the effect. If you seem to do NOTHING, then the effect is more direct and stronger. Of course, if the pass is visible or requires ...
by Bob Coyne
August 28th, 2019, 1:14 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7506
Views: 2249928

Re: ERDNASE

More anagrammatic pseudonyms: Science Fiction author Hugo Gernsback (for whom the Hugo Award is named) wrote under the names Grego Banshuck, Greno Gashbuck, Kars Gugenchob, Gus N. Habergock & Beno Ruckshagg. Mort Weisinger wrote under the name Tom Erwin Geris. And for those of you scoring at ho...
by Bob Coyne
July 18th, 2019, 9:39 am
Forum: Close-Up Magic
Topic: The Trick with the Strongest Reaction from Laymen
Replies: 146
Views: 23440

Re: The Trick with the Strongest Reaction from Laymen

This is an example of the too perfect theory. By having the magic happen in their hands, one possible solution is eliminated, leading them to backtrack toward the actual method. Sometimes a little less magical is more deceptive. It's a tricky balance.
by Bob Coyne
May 30th, 2019, 1:33 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7506
Views: 2249928

Re: ERDNASE

Another anagrammatic name: Salvador Dali was dubbed "Avida Dollars" by the poet Andre Breton in reference to the commercialization of his art and his lust for money.
by Bob Coyne
May 7th, 2019, 1:45 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7506
Views: 2249928

Re: ERDNASE

This is consistent with most of his other manipulations of idiomatic language, such as "could not hit the side of a barn" (p. 23), "walk and stock" (p. 74), and "lightning don't strike in the same place often" (p. 79), which are usually incorporated into the text of Th...
by Bob Coyne
May 1st, 2019, 1:36 pm
Forum: Collector's Marketplace
Topic: WANTED - ARTANIS BOTTOM DEAL
Replies: 2
Views: 434

Re: WANTED - ARTANIS BOTTOM DEAL

If you're looking for the material (as opposed to the actual historical item as originally published), you can get it in digital form from Chris Wasshuber at lybrary.com. https://www.lybrary.com/artanis-bottom-deal-p-242.html
by Bob Coyne
April 9th, 2019, 3:37 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7506
Views: 2249928

Re: ERDNASE

Bill Mullins wrote:Another reverse-spelling pseudonym:

Comic book artist Will Eisner published some material under the name of Willis B. Rensie.

Good find, Bill! How many of these have you identified so far?
by Bob Coyne
March 17th, 2019, 11:57 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7506
Views: 2249928

Re: ERDNASE

How uncommon were those phrase/patterns at the time? Here's a finding for Twain on "moss-covered": I'm not sure I understand the relevance of the frequency of "moss-covered". That's only used by Erdnase, not Sanders, and not related to my comparison except for it's *meaning*, wh...
by Bob Coyne
March 17th, 2019, 5:15 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7506
Views: 2249928

Re: ERDNASE

Wait a minute, wasn't that PALMED OFF quote directly from Sanders material that Bob recently stumbled on? I thought it was. Yes, the "palmed off" quote is from that text. As I briefly mentioned in my initial post, the new Sanders' texts I found were in Vol 2 of Contributions to Historical...

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