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by Bob Coyne
May 14th, 2020, 9:56 am
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Magicians united
Replies: 8
Views: 622

Re: Magicians united

That's great! (and very magical)
by Bob Coyne
May 2nd, 2020, 5:17 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7596
Views: 2312201

Re: ERDNASE

Roger M. wrote:There's about two weeks worth of posts from April 18th to May 2nd 2020 missing from this thread?

Nothing missing...there's a separate "Erdnase photographer" thread that got started in that timeframe.
by Bob Coyne
May 2nd, 2020, 5:02 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7596
Views: 2312201

Re: ERDNASE

There are a few spelling anomalies in Erdnase. The most well known being Charlier vs Charlies , which can easily be attributed to a typographical or printing error. Possibly more interesting, in that it happens more frequently, is sleights , which is spelled slights three times (with about thirty oc...
by Bob Coyne
April 30th, 2020, 3:02 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Erdnase photographer ?
Replies: 43
Views: 2304

Re: Erdnase photographer ?

David Ben's statement that he knows it wasn't Sanders (or MF Andrews) is just his opinion. And he hasn't offered any new arguments to back it up. There's a lot of evidence that points towards Sanders, though of course it's up to everyone to weigh the evidence and judge for themselves what they think...
by Bob Coyne
April 25th, 2020, 11:37 am
Forum: General
Topic: Erdnase photographer ?
Replies: 43
Views: 2304

Re: Erdnase photographer ?

Smith was a talented artist, something that's easy to see in his paintings of old New Orleans. I think a more common thought is that some of the more "amateurish" hand drawings in EATCT were very likely done after the fact by (non-artist) Erdnase himself, with Erdnase making amateur effor...
by Bob Coyne
April 24th, 2020, 6:38 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Erdnase photographer ?
Replies: 43
Views: 2304

Re: Erdnase photographer ?

There is nothing in Smith's recollections to suggest that any photographs were taken. Gardner's notes say: "He recognized his lettering on the book pictures, but not the drawings themselves. He thinks it strange he can’t recall doing the drawings, which must have been big job, so probably did ...
by Bob Coyne
April 17th, 2020, 10:22 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7596
Views: 2312201

Re: ERDNASE

Hi Bob--are these newly discovered similarities now in your PDF? Hi Leo, I keep the online html webpage up-to-date. It lists the update time at the top of the page. I used to generate a PDF, but haven't been doing that for quite a while, since it's harder to control the formatting, given that pdf e...
by Bob Coyne
April 17th, 2020, 9:03 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7596
Views: 2312201

Re: ERDNASE

Here are some additional linguistic/thematic similarities I've recently found in Erdnase and Sanders. 1) Both Erdnase and Sanders were innovative and "devised" systems that provided general solutions for many "variations" and particular cases. Erdnase presents his own systems for...
by Bob Coyne
April 13th, 2020, 8:17 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: John Conway RIP
Replies: 7
Views: 844

Re: John Conway RIP

One of the cool things about Conway's Game of Life is that it can be configured to simulate a Turing Machine, and hence is equivalent in computational power to any real computer. In this regard, Conway's influence extends beyond just pure mathematics and into computer science. Here's a wikipedia art...
by Bob Coyne
April 9th, 2020, 11:40 pm
Forum: Close-Up Magic
Topic: Best McDonald's Aces Routine
Replies: 160
Views: 7355

Re: Best McDonald's Aces Routine

Good question Jonathan! It feels so lame calling the Ace of Spaces the leader ace. I find myself doing it too, but it makes me cringe. :?
by Bob Coyne
March 29th, 2020, 12:12 am
Forum: Alternative Media
Topic: Japanese detective show episode w/ magic
Replies: 2
Views: 1169

Japanese detective show episode w/ magic

An enjoyable and interesting episode centered around magic forwarded to me by a friend living in Japan. I thought it did a good job of tying in some incidental magic and some magic principles (magician's choice and multiple outs) into the plot. The main detective character, based on his mannerisms, ...
by Bob Coyne
March 24th, 2020, 6:55 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7596
Views: 2312201

Re: ERDNASE

I'm not sure there's much different overlap between magic and gambling now vs the past. Robert-Houdin's "The Sharper Detected and Exposed" and John Nevil Maskelyne's "Sharps and Flats" were both books on cheating at the card table written by magicians in the mid to late 1800s.
by Bob Coyne
March 11th, 2020, 3:30 am
Forum: Close-Up Magic
Topic: Cardistry: Please Go Away
Replies: 93
Views: 7904

Re: Cardistry: Please Go Away

However, if you do the Notis Cascade at least do it for a foot or so. In the Ganson/Vernon book where it is described he mentions a long Notis Cascade. However, everyone I have ever seen do it (including Ricky Jay) does it a pathetic few inches. Except me of course. I do it for a full foot or so. T...
by Bob Coyne
March 1st, 2020, 3:40 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7596
Views: 2312201

Re: ERDNASE

It certainly bursts the bubble, however I know some folks don't agree with parts of Steve's writings. It's hard to give up your false god when you've invested so much time in it. Well, that's a glib way to dismiss disagreements. Neither Erdnase or Forte are gods, and maybe the arguments against par...
by Bob Coyne
February 18th, 2020, 9:06 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7596
Views: 2312201

Re: ERDNASE

Benedict was 10 in 1870. The Genealogy of the Benedicts in America was published in that year. Edward's family is listed on page 153 and a family of Dalrymples is listed on page 162. There was a link between the two names which could have been enough to make Edward believe that he might have been d...
by Bob Coyne
February 15th, 2020, 3:11 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7596
Views: 2312201

Re: ERDNASE

Roger M. wrote:Benedict is a legitimate candidate.

Gallaway is a ridiculous distraction best left alone back on Chris’s blog.

What are the main points for Benedict connecting him with Erdnase?
by Bob Coyne
February 15th, 2020, 1:40 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7596
Views: 2312201

Re: ERDNASE

Bob - your link in the post previous isn't working. Late-night network maintenance? Strange...I just now tested it in three different browsers browsers, and it worked. So maybe some temporary network glitch when you tried it. Here's the link as text (vs using the URL bbcode, in case that caused it ...
by Bob Coyne
February 15th, 2020, 1:08 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7596
Views: 2312201

Re: ERDNASE

The trouble with your theory is that it is based fundamentally on the name of the author. You start by assuming it is anagram, then look for Sanders and Andrews, etc. to find one that might have written book. The pen name, like many others of that ilk, is almost certainly is based on the reversed s...
by Bob Coyne
February 14th, 2020, 10:48 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7596
Views: 2312201

Re: ERDNASE

Again you are missing the point. You say all the elements are there--the reversed spellings, anagrams, and meaning of "Erdnase" as earth-nose. These are all hypotheses, not proven facts. We do not know that Erdnase is an anagram. It might be just German word. It might be just anagram, but...
by Bob Coyne
February 14th, 2020, 9:43 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7596
Views: 2312201

Re: ERDNASE

I think you are failing to get my point. I have not calculated the odds, but the chances of anybody re-arranging the letters of his name and getting an actual word or phrase are slight. To discover that this word is fitting to his character or his job is many times more unlikely. This is an absurd ...
by Bob Coyne
February 14th, 2020, 8:50 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7596
Views: 2312201

Re: ERDNASE

However--this is not the main problem with using "erdnase" to support Sanders. I would accept an argument that says Erdnase is anagram of Sanders. I would accept an argument that says Erdnase means hills and dales, so maybe a mining reference. But I reject argument that says is likely tha...
by Bob Coyne
February 12th, 2020, 7:18 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7596
Views: 2312201

Re: ERDNASE

Incidentally please remind me. I really don't want to wade back through all this. How did the artist describe Erdnase? I think that might be the best avenue to explore. Some of the key physical/behavioral attributes: - Short (5'5-5'7) and slight build - about 40 years old - blondish...not dark hair...
by Bob Coyne
February 12th, 2020, 12:28 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7596
Views: 2312201

Re: ERDNASE

Suppose you went through Martin Gardner's recollections of his interviews with Smith, and through the Smith-Gardner correspondence, and the limited recollections of the few other people who met Smith at the SAM convention, and listed everything that was said about Erdnase. You'd have a list of &quo...
by Bob Coyne
February 11th, 2020, 3:20 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7596
Views: 2312201

Re: ERDNASE

In my view, it's a long shot to bring this trick into mining context. Yes, Erdnase patters about "water or metals that lay hidden far under the ground" here, but also about "wonderful arts...by the ancients" and "the mysterious power of divining." To the best of my (li...
by Bob Coyne
February 10th, 2020, 6:59 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7596
Views: 2312201

Re: ERDNASE

In addition to the connection between Erdnase/earth-nose and Sanders' knowledge of German and profession of a prospector and mining engineer, there's another significant tie-in between Erdnase and mining. In the trick The Divining Rod, the patter centers around a mining-related theme, where a pen kn...
by Bob Coyne
February 4th, 2020, 6:59 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7596
Views: 2312201

Re: ERDNASE

[...] I agree the more distinctive phrasings (e.g. "cheap cards are clumsy") would be more significant, except that Hilliard clearly read Erdnase, so those phrases could have easily been rattling around in his head, if not deliberately copied. Certainly...most of those common short senten...
by Bob Coyne
February 4th, 2020, 4:24 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7596
Views: 2312201

Re: ERDNASE

Not sure about "simpler"...Perhaps more reasonable, yes, and I suggested that above. However, to play the devil's advocate, one could argue that very short phrases or sequences of words are unlikely to be deliberately borrowed from a given source, when in large number. We do tend to repea...
by Bob Coyne
February 4th, 2020, 11:56 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7596
Views: 2312201

Re: ERDNASE

I believe I first put forward is name in 2008, within this thread...I had no other reason except that he was a magician who ghost wrote AOM, and also worked for the Chicago Press and the Chicago Herald when he was young. Later in 2015 I compared sentences within AOM and EATCT: https://drive.google....
by Bob Coyne
February 4th, 2020, 2:02 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7596
Views: 2312201

Re: ERDNASE

Well, obviously his candidate is Hilliard, that’s the only person who matches all the clues. It’ll be interesting to see the evidence. Hilliard does seem to fit what's been revealed (well known figure; magic notebooks; look of the hands). I don't recall hearing any arguments for Hilliard being Erdn...
by Bob Coyne
February 2nd, 2020, 4:04 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7596
Views: 2312201

Re: ERDNASE

I think the relevance of Smith's recollections to a given candidate is combination of a) how much weight to give to Smith's memories generally b) how strong/specific the particular memory was and c) how closely his recollections match the candidate. i.e. it's not all or nothing but a weighting of fa...
by Bob Coyne
February 2nd, 2020, 1:30 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7596
Views: 2312201

Re: ERDNASE

Zig, I think there's a big different between remembering small visual details such as which way different picture cards face vs remembering the approximate age, height, race, sex, hair color, body build, etc of a person. If you remember a person at all, you'll generally remember those sorts of thing...
by Bob Coyne
February 1st, 2020, 11:41 am
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Announcement regarding new Steve Forte book
Replies: 158
Views: 21880

Re: Announcement regarding new Steve Forte book

I'm really looking forward to getting the book too. I don't care if it's a limited edition, an unlimited edition, or whatever. If it's published in any form whatsoever, it will accomplish the primary motive of this reader, as he needs the information!
by Bob Coyne
January 31st, 2020, 7:25 pm
Forum: Mentalism & Mental Magic
Topic: How does the tarot work?
Replies: 18
Views: 2107

Re: How does the tarot work?

Thanks for posting this. I always assumed this is how the Tarot worked. I think he's claiming something as a big discovery that's really sort of obvious. It would be more interesting/informative if he showed an example of how it worked (e.g. how readings can go this way or that based on the card con...
by Bob Coyne
January 31st, 2020, 4:30 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7596
Views: 2312201

Re: ERDNASE

Is it possible that Rufus Steele wrote Expert at the Card Table? Perhaps with help from Dr. James Elliott? Has anyone already looked into him? Just a thought Ive had for awhile. I need time to read all 181 pages of this thread. Rufus Steele was born in 1881, which would have made him around 21 in 1...
by Bob Coyne
January 29th, 2020, 9:56 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7596
Views: 2312201

Re: ERDNASE

There are no photos of Erdnase performing sleights out of Expert. Just like the "annotated copy," this is wish fulfillment nonsense. There are published photos of person X (same guy) doing some card sleights, but he's not Erdnase. Right, the main question is what evidence he has that pers...
by Bob Coyne
January 29th, 2020, 1:57 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7596
Views: 2312201

Re: ERDNASE

"The Karr book, on the other hand, presents actual biographical/historical evidence pertaining to Erdnase's identity." Hahahahahaha. He's trying to sell books: it's ad copy. Could be...You clearly know quite a bit more about what's in the book beyond what's been publicly released. I was j...
by Bob Coyne
January 28th, 2020, 8:03 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7596
Views: 2312201

Re: ERDNASE

Forte must have some very compelling evidence regarding Erdnase otherwise there would be no way he would even publish it. It'll be interesting to see what Forte says and how it differs from and goes beyond Tony Giorgio's claims that Erdnase was a magician, not a gambler. I found Giorgio's arguments...
by Bob Coyne
January 28th, 2020, 3:18 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7596
Views: 2312201

Re: ERDNASE

In 2015, Karr posted this (in this thread): I'm pretty sure I've got my man. Charles L. Andrews aka Charles E. Andrews was later William G. Andrews, advance man for Alexander Herrmann, and wrote extensive articles describing card moves and effects in language and terms matching The Expert. I'm arran...
by Bob Coyne
January 28th, 2020, 12:13 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7596
Views: 2312201

Re: ERDNASE

It’s certainly enticing. From the email: ”(If you've followed some of my previous writings on the pseudonymously credited author, S. W. Erdnase, this is NOT colorful conman E. S. Andrews or any other lead I previously examined .)“ Bold italics mine. A brand new candidate? Given that the book will i...
by Bob Coyne
January 27th, 2020, 11:58 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7596
Views: 2312201

Re: ERDNASE

Thoughts on this announcement? https://www.miraclefactory.net/product/erdnase/?mc_cid=3a4f2069c5&mc_eid=7bdc162697 Wow! It sounds like a wealth of new evidence has been uncovered up and that the author has been definitively identified. Amazing and wonderful if true. I can't wait to find out more!

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