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by magicam
January 23rd, 2018, 10:43 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Your opinions wanted: what do new magicians need to know about the history of magic?
Replies: 50
Views: 2681

Re: Your opinions wanted: what do new magicians need to know about the history of magic?

I've always been more interested in the history and origins of specific tricks and methods, and the magicians and inventors responsible, than I have been of, say, Houdini's tour dates in Europe in 1919. I suspect that’s because your nature is creative, which has led to appreciation of the riches bu...
by magicam
January 12th, 2018, 3:24 am
Forum: Buzz
Topic: The Science of Magic (BBC Radio 4)
Replies: 1
Views: 385

The Science of Magic (BBC Radio 4)

Apologies if this has already been noted. For an interesting and humorous 'symposium' which looks at the psychology of magic (and touches on the main topic recently debated in The Thread That Shall Not Be Named), check out this link:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09jrtb6
by magicam
December 13th, 2017, 8:22 am
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 622
Views: 23170

Re: Ennobling Magic

jkeyes1000 wrote:I am not suggesting that certain forms of deception are more acceptable to the audience than another ...

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by magicam
December 6th, 2017, 3:12 am
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 622
Views: 23170

Re: Ennobling Magic

We know there are a number of readers of this thread that wish to stay out of the discussion. Are they remaining silent because they fear offending me with their disapproval, or Brad? My two cents: when someone claims to "have engaged in thousands of debates in all sorts of places, on great to...
by magicam
December 5th, 2017, 9:28 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 622
Views: 23170

Re: Ennobling Magic

We know there are a number of readers of this thread that wish to stay out of the discussion. Are they remaining silent because they fear offending me with their disapproval, or Brad? My two cents: when someone claims to "have engaged in thousands of debates in all sorts of places, on great to...
by magicam
December 2nd, 2017, 10:37 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5542
Views: 1947055

Re: ERDNASE

the point is if it's common for books to be taken by print shop workers It wasn't common before Erdnase, it wasn't common during Erdnase's time, it wasn't common after Erdnase, it is not common today. It only happens if a worker has an interest in the subject. I have spoken with several printers an...
by magicam
November 30th, 2017, 6:21 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5542
Views: 1947055

Re: ERDNASE

Olsson merely reported an opinion that Gallaway is the likeliest candidate of the other 4 or 5 candidates, which is an extremely small sample. That is a very misleading way to put it. Who are all those other strong candidates which should have been included in the study? Judging by the posts on thi...
by magicam
November 29th, 2017, 8:50 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5542
Views: 1947055

Re: ERDNASE

How about you quit exaggerating what Olsson said about Gallaway? He said "In my opinion, given the foregoing tests and the last commentary section, Gallaway is the likeliest candidate of the candidates presented in this analysis for the authorship of Expert." To paraphrase, Gallaway write...
by magicam
November 28th, 2017, 7:34 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 622
Views: 23170

Re: Ennobling Magic

jkeyes1000 wrote: I have engaged in thousands of debates in all sorts of places, on great topics involving Science, Religion, and Government. ... I daresay I never lost.

Well, now we know Trump's alias on this board. Didn't know he had an interest in magic.
by magicam
November 27th, 2017, 2:59 am
Forum: General
Topic: Ennobling Magic
Replies: 622
Views: 23170

Re: Ennobling Magic

Over the past 46 years or so, I have heard a wide variety of spectator criticisms of magicians' performances. I have never heard a spectator say something along the lines of, "s/he's not very good or entertaining because I can't tell when s/he's lying and when s/he's telling the literal truth.&...
by magicam
November 27th, 2017, 1:34 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5542
Views: 1947055

Re: ERDNASE

Chris, Either you don’t understand what scholarship is, or you have knowingly conflated advocacy and publicity with scholarship. Scholars are, on the whole, credible, and their work is respected and has intellectual integrity. When an Edwin Dawes or a Ricky Jay makes a statement of fact, I am inclin...
by magicam
November 7th, 2017, 5:51 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Words About Wizards Dust Jacket -- A Rarity in Book Publishing
Replies: 0
Views: 449

Words About Wizards Dust Jacket -- A Rarity in Book Publishing

The rarity is that it took the publisher 23 years to add a dust jacket to the book! This message is from old friend David Meyer: Robert Parrish’s book, Words About Wizards: Recollections of magicians and their magic, 1930-1950 , was published in 1994. Publisher David Meyer always regretted not issui...
by magicam
November 3rd, 2017, 8:59 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5542
Views: 1947055

Re: ERDNASE

^^^ Or (if Erdnase's text was handwritten) a clearer "r" in the second reference, or both references were typeset as "Charlies Pass" but only the typo on p. 192 was caught in the proofreading stage? As you say, who knows! :) Topics are often inadvertently "recycled" in ...
by magicam
November 2nd, 2017, 1:40 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5542
Views: 1947055

Re: ERDNASE

It’s fairly well-known (at least, it’s not a secret) that someone in New York (that is, not Professor Hoffmann) did the initial proofreading of Hoffmann’s Latest Magic . I was ignorant of that tidbit (or perhaps I should say “titbit” in honor of the Professor!), and find it fascinating. Thanks for ...
by magicam
November 1st, 2017, 12:53 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5542
Views: 1947055

Re: ERDNASE

^^^ Chris, my reaction is that you raise an interesting point re "erde" and "nase." But for it to be a potentially significant point, I'd want to know that Gallaway actually possessed such books. Tom, re mistakes being more easily spotted by the author than by anyone else, I susp...
by magicam
November 1st, 2017, 2:58 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5542
Views: 1947055

Re: ERDNASE

Hi Leonard, Here’s the upshot on the more technical stuff: if the Expert typesetter was working from Erdnase’s typescript , then I think it more likely that the erroneous “Charlies Pass” came from Erdnase, i.e., it wasn’t a mistake by the typesetter. You noted that Sanders’ cursive "r" cou...
by magicam
October 31st, 2017, 6:57 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5542
Views: 1947055

Re: ERDNASE

Do typesetters work from handwritten manuscripts? If not, did they at one time? I believe that typewriters were in common use around the turn of the 20th century, so Erdnase's book could well have been in typescript, in which case it would seem unlikely that a compositor would mistake the "r&q...
by magicam
October 28th, 2017, 1:36 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5542
Views: 1947055

Re: ERDNASE

The other problem with Chris' theory is that he's assumed that Gallaway exclusively (or at least primarily) set type by hand. But is there any evidence that this was indeed the case? By the time Gallaway was working as a typesetter, Linotype machines were in widespread use throughout the US, and ev...
by magicam
October 27th, 2017, 3:43 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5542
Views: 1947055

Re: ERDNASE

If he never played cards or did any sleight-of-hand work, then why should I or anyone else trust his opinion about what makes a good sleight of hand worker? Because common sense confirms it. A typesetter develops very agile, nimble and toned fingers due to the constant work with his fingers. That i...
by magicam
October 20th, 2017, 2:45 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5542
Views: 1947055

Re: ERDNASE

Applying Occam's razor, any chance the italicized a is simply the result of having run out of the regular ones? Jack, see the image below. Note that the 'a' slants the wrong way; not only that, but its width is appreciably exaggerated compared to the other type (especially the letters in the italic...
by magicam
October 19th, 2017, 4:32 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5542
Views: 1947055

Re: ERDNASE

But specifically, what it absolutely does is puts a deck of cards in Andrews hands, which would, to me, be the important part. Agreed! When Gutenberg invented metal movable type his intention was to mimic as closely as possible the beautiful handwritten bibles. … to do that he created characters of...
by magicam
October 18th, 2017, 3:06 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5542
Views: 1947055

Re: ERDNASE

Spraying to all fields … A general note: if respected magic historians found Chris W.’s evidence and conclusions convincing, there’d be considerable more buzz at large in that community. But there isn’t. Of course, that says nothing about the actual merit of Gallaway as a candidate, but to some degr...
by magicam
July 27th, 2017, 5:13 am
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Why New People Cannot Join the Genii Forum at the Moment
Replies: 2
Views: 880

Re: Why New People Cannot Join the Genii Forum at the Moment

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by magicam
May 25th, 2017, 4:17 am
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Heard some exciting news ...
Replies: 47
Views: 8241

Re: Heard some exciting news ...

Well, it is indeed exciting news.

The SoCal Sodality dinner has finally been scheduled for June 15! :shock:
by magicam
May 13th, 2017, 10:08 pm
Forum: Magic History and Anecdotes
Topic: Magic catalogs w/ stereotypical Asian images. References pls
Replies: 21
Views: 7193

Re: Magic catalogs w/ stereotypical Asian images. References pls

'Bob Farmer' inexplicably wrote:I could never reconcile how magic, which works with lies and deception, could be used to communicate a religious truth or belief. If the performer is lying about one thing, is he lying about the other and how do you tell the difference?
Someone has obviously hijacked Bob's account ...
by magicam
April 20th, 2017, 1:05 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5542
Views: 1947055

Re: ERDNASE

John and Jason, when it comes to the Erdnase market, I’m sure you have your finger on the pulse far better than I do. My less-sanguine view reflects seeing a number of “booms and busts” in magicana prices over the past 45 years of collecting. You guys may be too young to remember, but (for example) ...
by magicam
April 19th, 2017, 9:04 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5542
Views: 1947055

Re: ERDNASE

^^^ Only time will tell! Just curious, how many years have you been a dedicated collector, i.e., more than an accumulator who purchases books in the course of learning magic?
by magicam
April 13th, 2017, 5:43 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5542
Views: 1947055

Re: ERDNASE

^^^ Or, you could wait ten years and then be ecstatic to get $300-$400 per copy. The Erdnase renaissance is wonderful, but the prices of earlier editions are not sustainable.
by magicam
February 19th, 2017, 7:35 pm
Forum: Magic History and Anecdotes
Topic: Calling All London Collectors! Research Help Requested!
Replies: 1
Views: 866

Re: Calling All London Collectors! Research Help Requested!

Update: lodging secured!

Now to the Dean editions!
by magicam
February 16th, 2017, 11:26 pm
Forum: Magic History and Anecdotes
Topic: Calling All London Collectors! Research Help Requested!
Replies: 1
Views: 866

Calling All London Collectors! Research Help Requested!

Hi All, A few of you know that Dr. Edwin A. Dawes and I have been working on a bio-bibliography of Henry Dean and his book, The Whole Art of Legerdemain, or Hocus Pocus in Perfection , the first edition of which was published in London in 1722. Over the next 150 years, nearly 40 editions of his book...
by magicam
January 23rd, 2017, 4:40 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Julie Eng's Husband Suley Has Died
Replies: 15
Views: 2470

Re: Julie Eng's Husband Suley Has Died

I was so happy to see Julie get the recognition so richly deserved in a recent Genii, and applaud RK for once again digging deeper into the magic world to credit its unsung heroes.

Jules, not much to add to what I've already said to you in private. Just know we're here for you! C.
by magicam
January 18th, 2017, 9:32 pm
Forum: General
Topic: The Jerx Year Two
Replies: 68
Views: 13042

Re: The Jerx Year Two

Latest post = David Berglas. Different trick, different time, same idea behind it. Do one trick that the spectator will remember for the rest of her life. Actually, latest post = substantially the same effect apparently done by Cagliostro, down to the personal effects, rusty old box, and discoverin...
by magicam
December 12th, 2016, 2:55 am
Forum: Magic History and Anecdotes
Topic: RIP The L.A. Conference on Magic History?
Replies: 2
Views: 1230

RIP The L.A. Conference on Magic History?

It’s a bit surprising that the possible demise of the LACOMH hasn’t been mentioned and mourned here. I profess no inside knowledge on this matter, but wish to express my own laments if the rumor is true, for there seems little doubt about the consensus that the bi-annual Conferences were by far the ...
by magicam
December 7th, 2016, 7:22 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: H&R Books - Used book discount!
Replies: 44
Views: 5540

Re: H&R Books - Used book discount!

However, I do feel it is easier/cheaper to replace a digital book than it is to replace a physical book. Agreed! Anent whether or not learning/comprehension is enhanced by reading physical books (vs. ebooks), perhaps such concept is purely anecdotal, as suggested in the interesting link you provide...
by magicam
December 6th, 2016, 10:01 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: H&R Books - Used book discount!
Replies: 44
Views: 5540

Re: H&R Books - Used book discount!

It doesn't necessarily have to be something as extreme as a nuclear blast to damage physical books. I know of collections that have been damaged by fire, water and poor storage. In cases where a physical library is destroyed, you'd have to again go through the expensive process of replacing the ite...
by magicam
December 6th, 2016, 3:16 am
Forum: Buzz
Topic: H&R Books - Used book discount!
Replies: 44
Views: 5540

Re: H&R Books - Used book discount!

Hear, hear, Magicam! thank you for pointing out one of the simple pleasures for bibliophiles. Some folks like Chris are in denial about the downsides of the technological reading gizmos you noted. I’m not sure CW is in denial so much as he is a very enthusiastic promoter of e-books, not only becaus...
by magicam
December 5th, 2016, 3:45 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: H&R Books - Used book discount!
Replies: 44
Views: 5540

Re: H&R Books - Used book discount!

There is another aspect of digital downloads that has been discussed here before. The download chains the reader to the computer or other technical device. I want the freedom that a book or paper magazine gives me. I can carry it anywhere with me and don't need anything more than a medieval device ...
by magicam
December 4th, 2016, 8:48 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5542
Views: 1947055

Re: ERDNASE

I'm surprised Chris's book has generated so little comment . I think folks posting to this thread hesitate to comment if they either don't own the book in question, and/or have no intention of purchasing the book in question. The author made his research methodology, and road map to writing the boo...
by magicam
November 29th, 2016, 9:13 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 5542
Views: 1947055

Re: ERDNASE

There’s no crime in the strength of one’s convictions, but having read the blurb for Chris’ e-book, perhaps he could have conveyed his confidence and zeal with greater circumspection and tact. Although I have not agreed with or been persuaded by a number of Chris’ conclusions and arguments, he deser...
by magicam
November 11th, 2016, 7:48 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: An L & L Bombshell?
Replies: 100
Views: 12165

Re: An L & L Bombshell?

^^^ Chris, as a general matter your points have solid merit. On the other hand, Brad's observations on the younger generations mirror what I've heard based on conversations with a few (but not many) experienced and perceptive magicians.

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