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I can’t see how else to do this....Richard please pm me I have something of interest re. Vernon

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I think the handling in More Inner Secrets is cleaner.

On the Berg Knot: there are two handlings I use. The one in Pallbearers and the one in Gardner’s Encyclopedia. I find them both practical.

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That Erdnase quote; to me it is clear that he actually did this; but he also says (without the book in front of me) that it is great for amateurs performing for friends and family.
I think this says something substantial about the man.

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Just watched Performer's 3 Card Monte. I find it interesting that he makes very little use of 'mixing' the cards after the toss. Contrast this with the School for Scoundrels DVD on the topic, where they place emphasis on the mixing; saying that the principle is that the spectator is meant to think t...

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The version in Expert card Conjuring is Marlo's improvement of Guyatt's handling.
I believe Guyatt's original was published in the Magic Circular as I'm Thinker Than you Drunk I Am.

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Andrew; this book is basically most of the good material I've developed and used over the last 30 years. It is largely cards, although there are a few other close up things. Very little of it has been published, except for a handful of tricks in The Crimp. As the title says, it is all impromptu; and...

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I've now had confirmation that my book, Impromptu Secrets, will be launched at Blackpool in February by International Magic. You haven't heard of Dominic Twose...that's OK; for geographical reasons I don't mix much with other magicians. But I'm touched that magicians I admire, like Peter Duffie, Gor...

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Brad; I understand your marketing argument. This book is being produced by Linda. As she has emphasized to me, her goal with this project is to celebrate and record her late husband's contribution to our art. The idea of including the linking ring description in order to sell more copies and to sell...

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Bruce Cervon's book should be out this year. That's news to me. Do you know who is authoring and publishing it? I wonder if it will include his linking finger ring routine. I was told by people who witnessed it that it was indeed the best linking finger ring routine they had ever seen. Hi To answer...

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Bruce Cervon's book should be out this year.

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Sorry to have taken this off-topic... Joe; to add to your thoughts: In The Chronicles, Fulves published a lovely handling by Wurst, involving the spectator dealing the cards. And Terry Guyatt - a superb magician - showed me a wonderful out, which I don't think has been published; deal the cards face...

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As an aside; while the details of the effect are slightly different, I've found the psychological stop trick to be a powerful trick for an audience. The broad effect - the spectator stops at the right card - is the same. But you don't have to deal through the whole pack. Which is a bit tedious, as w...

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It's well worth obtaining; good material, good teaching

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I've spent many hours working with videos that Bruce made in the last ten years of his life. He comes across as an intelligent, talented guy, keen to share the details of his ideas; and keen to to give credit to others where warranted. He also had a great self-depreciating sense of humour. Also - de...

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I'm sorry; another question!

You say; 'Cervon was extremely jealous of Jennings' ideas and creations, as well as his close relationship with Vernon.'

What is your statement based on?

I appreciate your help; I'm keen to get credits right.

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If you check what I've written I have very few opinions on the subject - apart from expressing a preference for the Jennings' handling. I do have questions, which no one is answering. Here is another; if Vernon couldn't stand Cervon, and had a great relationship with Jennings, and would only tip stu...

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Wow;so Cervon changed the dates in his personal notebooks, and now he was Marlo's spy! Since you aren't bothering with any evidence, why not also suggest he drank the blood of babies? I asked: What was the evidence for Cervon changing the dates; your reply is pure bluster (yes, I don't like the word...

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Thanks for these replies. They raise a few questions. Richard says Cervon changed dates in the notebooks. That's a pretty serious charge! And quite a character attack. What's the evidence? And why would he do it, when he didn't show the notebooks around? Richard says Cervon never invented any classi...

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It seems to me that the issue of the parenthood of the Open Travellers is now well settled: When it was first published in Expert Card Mysteries (1975), it says; 'If it were not for...Mike Skinner's suggestion of the cover up steal of the first ace...Jennings states that he would never have come up ...

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Thank you!

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Who should be credited with the idea of 'winding up the deck'? - riffling the corner with the left thumb, while the right hand does a winding motion?

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I'm completely ignorant about the world of magical publishing; so I probably shouldn't even ask this; but - wouldn't sales of the Jennings book vastly outweigh sales of those others?

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Thank you! Problem resolved!

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Rick Johnsson's Quicksilver is described in Mentzer's Close Up Cavalcade. It seems like an interesting ring-off-rope effect. But every time I try it, I end up with a knot. I'm following the instructions as carefully as I can; but the photos aren't particularly clear. Can anyone familiar with this gi...

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I think it is a great effect!
But, as has already been commented, the psychological presentational angle is key; you are as bemused by this weird pack of cards as they are. You need to be able to ACT to sell it.
Performed right (and without over-proving) it is a strong, unique effect.

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Seems there is no evidence it was Michaelangelo who said it...

http://quoteinvestigator.com/2014/06/22/chip-away/

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Adams did write a number of articles on Erdnase in Pentagram. But I don't know if they covered the same material as in his scarce book.

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There is an interesting film of Bruce Bervon performing here http://www.magicana.com/video/bruce-cervon-close-card-magic At 3.30 he performs a version of Daley's Last Trick, with a kicker from Marlo's 'This is a Four King Trick'. But the handling is quite different. Does anyone know if the handling ...

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While slow, the 'video notebook' project is very much alive.

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The first time I used the 'Daryl display' someone suggested it was the way I got the cards back into order.
If your shuffle is convincing, it is so unnecessary, it leads to a (fake) solution.

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Hi; completely agree that Immediate Bottom Placement is not the Hofzinser cull!!!! But; what Marlo describes in Marlo's Magazine is: "Larry spreads deck FACE UP and has a spectator touch any card in the center. He then closes up the spread, turns the deck over, then shows the card is on top of ...

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I'm sorry. According to the Marlo Magazine, this is what Sharp described to Marlo "Larry spreads deck FACE UP and has a spectator touch any card in the center. He then closes up the spread, turns the deck over, then shows the card is on top of the deck." This does not sound to me like Conv...

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I might...but I couldn't see it...

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You're right.
Even though Larry used Marlo techniques, it doesn't seem that Marlo applied these handlings to this effect.

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The trick known as Mental Reverse (Spectator thinks of one of 4, 5 or 6 cards; the mental selection is the only reversed card in the pack) goes back I think to Horowitz, who used double backed cards, in a way that would probably still be effective today. In Expert Card Technique, Zingone introduced ...

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OK; I've got two questions. I'll put the other in a different thread to avoid confusion. Richard; regardless of who copied who; out of interest, did Larry have anything specific on "Larry spreads deck FACE UP and has a spectator touch any card in the center. He then closes up the spread, turns ...

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Richard: I've had Jennings 66 since it was published! But in it you say that in Marlos Magazine 6, Marlo admitted that he'd been told by Sharpe how the Jennings sleight looked from the spectators point of view. But the description in Marlo's Magazine 6 is what I give above; which bears no resemblanc...

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Resurrecting an old thread: The Jennings story is that Jennings showed the move to Sharp who described it to Marlo. The Marlo story is that the move described by Sharp was not Convincing Control. Well. According to Marlo's magazine the move Sharp described was: "Larry spreads deck FACE UP and h...

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I've got shelves full of bound copies of old magazines - Pallbearers, Epilogue, Chronicles, Apocalypse, Richard's Almanac, Pentagram, Hugard's, Jinx, Phoenix, Pabular, Ibidem, Mahatma, Swami/Mantra, Magick....I'd be hard pressed to identify 'the best' or my favourite....I think they're all great; so...

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I have a few days off work, and have been looking through some Geniis from the 80s. Some of the old ads are fascinating; and it is interesting to see which tricks lasted... That Impossible Penetration trick I still have; I bought it off George Schindler. I still remember his patter line; he would ho...

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