The Genii Forum

Roger M.

In his failed efforts to promote Gallaway as a serious candidate, Chris now has a dilemma on his hands. The Genii Forum, and it's now dozens upon dozens of pages stating very clearly that "Gallaway is not Erdnase", is a major thorn in Chris's efforts to be regaled in history as the man who...

Roger M.

And you preach about intellectual honesty. Yeah, right. This is a very telling quote. I don't think I've ever preached about or even mentioned intellectual honesty. One wonders what other misreadings you regularly make. With Chris being the almost perfect textbook example of absolutely guilt-free a...

Roger M.

And you haven't posted anything new ever. Oh now that's just nasty Chris :o Mmmmm, well I did do this one morning over a cup of coffee, in about 45 minutes (be sure to read all the way to the end of the thread): https://forums.geniimagazine.com/viewtopic.php?t=37909 I guess the point is, when I do ...

Roger M.

I must say too, that I have a deep admiration for Chris's endless tenacity.

I certainly couldn't keep up a charade for as long as Chris has kept his charade up without going completely bonkers.

Credit where credit is due!

Roger M.

In reality, you havn't brought anything at all new in any of your posts for ages ... choosing instead to post on an almost daily basis only insults, and misguided (and often just plain wrong) comments and statements designed to bolster your long ago debunked Gallaway theory. And you haven't posted ...

Roger M.

He presented him with too tall MFA and pushed and pleaded with Smith to reconsider his recollections to make MFA fit. Sigh .... that's not at all what happened. Gardner was in a letter exchange with Smith, and over a lengthy period of time - 1946 to 1953. The letters were sometimes sporadic, with b...

Roger M.

Again you are wrong. This is where you loose all credibility in this thread Chris, and it's a shame. Bob is actually 100% correct ... and you bloody well know it. I don't know who you think you're fooling with your endless twisting and massaging of every single post you write, but I suspect you're ...

Roger M.

That was his first and therefore most credible statement. Your quote is from much later after Gardner worked on him to push him higher, which is not credible. And you preach about intellectual honesty. Yeah, right. You're so predictable Chris, it's almost too funny! Actually the correct way to phra...

Roger M.

I'm 5'9", and anybody who's 6'1" definitely looks noticeably down on me ... as I'm quite aware I'm craning my neck upward to look said 6'1" person in the eye.

Roger M.

If Sanders is too tall compared to Smith's recollection of 5'6", then Gallaway is too short. Time to brush up on your math! Not at all. Smith said no taller than 5'6". Or in mathematical terms <=5'6". My estimate for Gallaway is smaller than 5'6" perfectly in line with Smith's s...

Roger M.

No, you do not want to learn anything. You're making the common error of confusing my desire to learn with my rejection of a teacher who doesn't actually have anything of value to teach. But perhaps the most difficult issue to overcome when conversing with you Chris, is the fact that you fail now (...

Roger M.

This is where we clearly differ. It's OK to differ Chris, lots of folks here differ with each other on everything from very minor points, to very major points. But the exchange is still pleasant, and there's always room to learn something new. But it's the "differing" that often makes the...

Roger M.

I would think that an expert linguistic analysis would also need an expert understanding of the work being investigated. . ^^^ This ^^^ Unfortunately, this incredibly important observation will be brushed aside by some as irrelevant ... and funnily enough, it will be brushed aside by the very same ...

Roger M.

So you agree that you have no example of an author who wrote a really good first book without any prior writing experience. I am happy you finally agree. Consequently it is silly to argue that Erdnase had no prior writing experience. Whether I personally can satisfy your need to view a list of writ...

Roger M.

That makes no sense for your argument . You tried to argue that there are several authors without prior writing experience who wrote a great debut book. I have shown that this is not at all the case. No, I was the one to have shown that Chris ... when I wrote a few posts above: "I'll note in a...

Roger M.

I quite clearly said book Chris ... and I quite clearly said it more than once. Your examples are examples of plays, novellas, poems, edits, etc ... none of which are books . My examples stand as authors of a single, outstanding book . (BTW Chris, please think about it for a moment before telling me...

Roger M.

I'll note in advance that some of the above authors indeed wrote poetry, articles, etc ... but all only wrote a single book . And that was exactly my point. We are talking about writers. Doesn't matter if it is newspaper editorials, or technical articles, legal opinions, advertisement copy, or what...

Roger M.

These authors continued to write. Where is E.S. Andrews continuing to write? What else has he written after Expert? Nothing, because he is not a writer. The following authors only wrote one book, indicating that indeed an author need not ever write more than a single book in order to be considered ...

Roger M.

I agree Bill, and would have to believe that in 1901, as in 2018 ... if I were to walk into a printing and publishing facility and ask to speak to somebody about having them print and publish my book ... but that I'd never had any experience before printing and publishing a book ... I'd only hear &q...

Roger M.

But here is a question that might get me kicked out of the cool kids club: can we say erdnase was a great writer? I think Erdnase is a profoundly knowledgeable writer on the subject matter he's writing about (to be expected, as he invented most of what he writes about from scratch), but I think too...

Roger M.

The concept that Erdnase had to have written books before EATCT is (IMO) flawed, and it's worth noting that the world is full of "first time authors" who have written brilliant books as their first effort: "Sense and Sensibility" by Jane Austin was a first time effort. "Fran...

Roger M.

I take note that you believe my argumentation not to be sound. To clarify though, I'm only seeking conversation, not an argument. Believe me Chris, I DO know what your position is on Erdnase, as you no doubt know mine. I'd prefer to engage strictly as gentlemen on a subject of interest to us both. T...

Roger M.

He may have never self-published anything before, but he certainly wrote a lot before. I understand that you, and some others believe that Chris ... but it's not an opinion that I share. The idea that Erdnase wrote a lot prior to EATCT is a mere guess, and I'm avoiding guesses at this point. More i...

Roger M.

You forgot what I consider E.S. Andrew's biggest problem. He wasn't a writer. I didn't forget that Chris, indeed I see it as a positive for Andrews, and noted just that ... in my post I said: "E.S. Andrews had never self-published anything before, which is reflected in the somewhat loose edito...

Roger M.

There's no doubt Sanders is, and remains a strong candidate Bob. I exchanged quite a few emails with David Alexander, and for a long while was quite taken by his incredibly complex analysis of Sanders, EATCT title page, and the rest of his work that eventually led him to Sanders. It was quite mind b...

Roger M.

A complete surprise, and terribly sad. The script for Wise Guy as performed at Oswalds, and as with additional commentary by Jon Racherbaumer, is a sheer masterpiece of theatre ... not just magic theatre, but all live theatre, as performed anywhere in the world. I hear Harry's voice every time I rea...

Roger M.

I should note too that I put a great deal of weight on M.D. Smith's recollections, and believe strongly that the only reason to introduce doubt as to what Smith told Gardner would be if one were to be advocating a candidate that didn't fulfil one of the criteria for Erdnase as noted by Smith. In my ...

Roger M.

Can you summarize what you think is the strongest evidence for this particular version of E.S. Andrews? I'm assuming he's the traveling railroad agent with a possible Dalrymple connection (via Seely/Seeley)? Is there anything else in his favor that makes you think the case is so strong? Long post, ...

Roger M.

Ah! I perceive. You have made up your mind. You are back-fitting the evidence and "fudging" wherever necessary. Well, at least I know you're not mad. LOL, not mad (slightly crazy maybe?). My approach has been to strictly limit the candidates likelihood of being the author of EATCT the the...

Roger M.

You are either out of touch with Reality, or simply trying to "stack the deck" in your favour. It is bold beyond bold to suggest that others are making it difficult to "advance the conversation" by engaging in guesswork. You are not only hypocritically doing the same, but you ar...

Roger M.

jkeyes1000 wrote: Do you seriously think them self-evident?

Indeed I do.
Thanks for asking.
Erdnase was gainfully employed before, during, and after writing EATCT, and was never wanting for money.

As noted earlier, his reference to "needing the money" was a joke, a humorous aside.

Roger M.

it seems some are content to make cases based on what was possible, disregarding the mandate to discover what is true. It does tend to make advancing a conversation difficult when folks sometimes seem to be just guessing at what they choose to post ... and are then willing to die on the hill that w...

Roger M.

I have spoken to this before, but I will reiterate. "Needing the money" can mean a number of things. We all like to have and get money ... but the word "need" has an actual meaning, and none of the candidates fits the bill ... sorry. It was a joke, merely a humorous aside from E...

Roger M.

If Erdnase was Sanders he wouldn't have needed the money. But that is still a big IF. It doesn't matter which of the "premier" Erdnase candidates you choose to support, Gallaway, Sanders, E.S. Andrews, Benedict, or ??? ... we know for a fact that all of them were gainfully employed before...

Roger M.

.......Erdnase must not have needed the cash, because it was a fairly slow process. But that is all the better reason to dispense with small talk! Too much time had been wasted already. I agree with Leonard ... Erdnase, fully employed for years before he wrote the book and then years after the book...

Roger M.

Some time away Chris, always a refreshing break, some additional perspectve.
All good.
The thread has introduced some new candidates to study as well, some very interesting, some not so much.

Hope you’re well, and continued luck with your Gallaway project.

Roger M.

I think it more sensible to consider the distinct possibility that Erdnase was a business man, to whom "time was money"...... The lack of understanding as to what's actually contained in the book remains a surprise to me. Erdnase definitely wasn't a businessman, nor would I posit that he ...

Roger M.

If he were as chatty as you suggest, then why would he have neglected to inform Smith of his career in the printing business (if he was Gallaway), or the fact that his father was a senator (if he was Sanders)? Well, Erdnase wasn't either of those folks, so the remainder of your post becomes somewha...

Roger M.

.....If Erdnase were a no-nonsense sort of fellow, he might have spoken only of art-related matters..... A small bit of research indicates that Erdnase spoke far more broadly than about just "art-related matters": Erdnase talked to Smith about, and demonstrated card tricks Erdnase talked ...

Roger M.

Dustin is referencing me folks, and doing so in response to my request made earlier today that he delete Chris's reference to me as "despicable" in a post Chris made a couple of days ago ... not because I'm in any way thin skinned (I'm not at all), but because I thought it degraded the thr...

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