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The Burnaby Kid

Very quickly, the picture isn't racist. It's a reference to a meme involving Kimberly Wilkins from a news interview. Here's an interview with the lady afterwards on The View about the whole thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH5YISZhs4c

The Burnaby Kid

Alright, a quick apology. I confused this exposure with another recent exposure on the hype that got talked about elsewhere, where people were unhappy. That's my bad and I apologize. I was defending that one and not even thinking about the one in the Punisher, which I haven't even seen yet. My apolo...

The Burnaby Kid

Brad, Let's try this again. I was trying to say that we can't do anything about videos like these because ultimately they expose a scam, not a magic trick. They show people that the mix has nothing to do with how they missed the card. Now, at this point, an intelligent person would look at a good th...

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1) You really believe the people who play the game don’t know that the operator is switching cards in a way that should be hard for them to detect? The point is that the people who play the game in real life believe that it's in the mix, not in the throw. They also only get burned once, so they go ...

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likewise, teaching the hype does nothing to protect the would be mark. It lets him know why he needs to stay away from the game. you wouldn’t misdirect them by focusing on moves that don’t really matter in the big scheme of things. There is no social value from exposing the hype. It’s purely a prur...

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It's not that big a deal. If you need a way to deal with people who have heard about the hype, look no further than Dai Vernon's routine. He has the solution to it. While this exposure is a nuisance for those of us who do the trick, monte is a scam and exposing the hype basically counts as gambling ...

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If you can do one thing for me, just please, for the love of Odin please, don't ever mention Jay Marshall in the same breath as an anonymous gutter-snipe who profits from the misappropriation of one of the greatest publications in the history of our art by Theo Annemann and fills it with filth. Ouc...

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"Some people like a sharp mustard." - Equating the use of verbal, physical abuse and objectification of women to present magic, as an acquired taste , like a sharp mustard, is in equally poor taste. Ah, man? Now you're going to make me lose sleep tonight. Fiddlesticks. It's possible to en...

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Joe Lyons wrote:
Ted M wrote:This is a test of the emergency spelling assistance system:
M-I-S-O-G-Y-N-Y: Misogyny.
Thank you.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled argument.

Thanks Ted.
It was bothering me but I didn’t want to be labeled a malorthographobe.

Gesundheit.

The Burnaby Kid

Not exactly. The instance of misdirection in the beginning of Tamed Cards is a better example of what Tommy Wonder is talking about when he's talking about misdirection. Regarding the r-rated stuff... Some people like a sharp mustard. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Personally, thoug...

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And THAT is how you kill a conversation!

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Setting aside specifics of style, to those who happen to think Andy just kinda doesn't know what he's talking about, I've got you covered. The Jerx, at one point, had a few things to say about Tommy Wonder's idea of misdirection. I'll copy and paste my humble reply below, and y'all can check out two...

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Easiest way to get a standing ovation is to busk.

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performer wrote:[The double lift] wasn't mentioned in Erdnase or any of the standard books of the day.

It's in Erdnase. It's not mentioned by name but the technique is used.

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Richard Kaufman wrote:Gents (because despite my request to more than one female magician to throw their two cents in here, none have), I have done a bunch of trimming and deleting on this thread.

You see? Now they got us fighting over them in a brand new way!

The Burnaby Kid

Richard Kaufman wrote:BK: Can you do a Pass that is not seen by the audience without any wild or unnatural gyration to cover it?

If it'll help make the argument, let me see what I can do about getting video of it.

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In the end we are circling back to the idea of justifying extra actions to compensate for not being able to use the most efficient solution... That analysis can just as easily apply to introducing an extra sleight (the pass) to a trick that doesn't necessarily benefit from it from the audience's po...

The Burnaby Kid

While I see what you're saying, the delay that you're speaking of is a bit tangential to my point, which is merely that the effect benefits by having a shuffle in there. Besides, one can just as easily (arguably more easily) insert a delay prior to a shuffle through various extant jogging techniques...

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Darwin Ortiz explains this the best. I'll try to paraphrase. If the effect is that the card magically travels from the middle to the top, then it makes sense that it'd be better if nothing appears to happen, so a pass makes more sense than a shuffle in that context. If you put the card in the middle...

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Ian Kendall wrote:I'm struggling to think of a time when it's beneficial during a card control for the spectators to think that something had happened (as opposed to thinking that nothing had happened).

I'm thinking along the lines of open controls such as shuffles or cuts.

The Burnaby Kid

That's the whole point. If you can use a pass correctly, then in the eyes of the spectator, nothing at all has happened; they replaced the card into the deck and that's it. However, if you have to use bizarre covers for the pass, or do something _after_ the pass, then that illusion of 'nothing happ...

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The problem with replacing the pass with another control is that the replacement is almost never more efficient than a pass. If the pass can be done deceptively, then sure, this is an advantage that certainly benefits the magician. Whether or not it benefits the effect, however, is up to what the e...

The Burnaby Kid

Oh, don't worry, I agree. That's why I listed what I thought were useful applications of the move.

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One of the problems with the pass is that there aren't all that many applications for it that can't be replaced by other methods, including, for instance, a shuffle followed by a DL to show the card isn't on top. Generally, in terms of useful... erm... uses for the pass, we're looking at Walton's Pa...

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So... when this thread hits 2 million views, how will you guys be celebrating? I'm thinking Arby's.

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Got a reference in Card Manipulations #5 that predates Greater Magic...? http://themagicwiki.com/magos/www.thelearnedpig.com.pa/magos/books/cmanip05/024.html No credit given. Edit: For the original principle itself, apparently the concept goes back as far as Sachs, although Gibson was the first to h...

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Sanders, Andrews, Gallaway... can't we temporarily set aside our differences and come together to agree that, whatever his name was, the man was overrated as hell?

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I am grateful for the Gardner reference. Incidentally, his booklet "12 Tricks with a Borrowed Deck" is available over at Lybrary.com for a mere $4.00. It's also available here: http://search.slv.vic.gov.au/ (full link: http://search.slv.vic.gov.au/primo_library/libweb/action/dlSearch.do?d...

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I don't think the presentational frame and the timing of the reveal changes the fact that it is the same basic method. Oh yeah, absolutely. In my case, though, the principle that I'm trying to establish the lineage of (for the thing I'm writing up) specifically involves teleportations. An analogy m...

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Hofzinser - Three Powers - first phase (page 175 of the Dover paperback) - the performer clearly claims to make three cards vanish from the pack held by a volunteer and appear in his pocket. As Denis said, three cards are then shown produced from the pocket (in this case they rise/pop out of the po...

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So, some of these are new to me, so thanks, I appreciate it! There seem to be a few things here that come pretty close. Tarbell and Wimbrough both have this idea of a card already in the pocket becoming the selected card from somewhere else. I think it's a bit different than what happens later with ...

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I've got a slight crediting issue on my hands. I'm trying to track down the history of a specific card principle within card-to-impossible-location effects. The idea is that the back of an indifferent card is used to insinuate that the effect is completed, whereupon the magician, in apparently fetch...

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Richard,

Given my geographical situation, would that mean I'd be looking to get the services of somebody who lives in Washington DC?

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Hey, sorry if this is the wrong spot, I can repost the question elsewhere if there's a better spot for it. I've got a question for those hip to the publishing jive. I'm putting together a manuscript that uses a few items from books that are in the public domain. With a couple of them, I'm confident ...

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Philippe Billot wrote:Is the book G&M Magic Course still available ?
Or is it a PDF sells with a DVD ?

Check Lybrary.com's Learned Pig section -- bunch of public domain books there.

The Burnaby Kid

According to his genii page...

In 1944, he partnered with R.N. Menge creating a line of products known as "Grant and Menge" or "G. & M." The partnership only lasted a year and they ended up becoming rivals.

Seems to put the G&M Book between 1944-1945...?

The Burnaby Kid

I guess. It seems bizarre that he'd make a special point out of saying he'd originated it, though, and leave it ambiguous which books he's alluding to ("a few books" vs. "a few of his books").

The Burnaby Kid

From the G&M Magic Course, which was brought out through the old Learned Pig website, U.F. Grant had this to say on the basic principle at work in the Marlo/Gardner poker routine. This particular routine was originated by U. F. Grant several years ago and has been used by him successfully for a ...

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