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by Bill Mullins
February 23rd, 2020, 11:55 pm
Forum: Reference Room
Topic: Dover Books on Magic
Replies: 12
Views: 6310

Re: Dover Books on Magic

A history of Dover. Apparently the new ownership is changing the direction of the company. I hope they keep the magic books.
by Bill Mullins
February 23rd, 2020, 7:50 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Announcement regarding new Steve Forte book
Replies: 136
Views: 13144

Re: Announcement regarding new Steve Forte book

Oh great. Next you're going to be telling me I don't need to give the mailman money to get my mail.
by Bill Mullins
February 23rd, 2020, 12:37 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7511
Views: 2252086

Re: ERDNASE

Some time back, Richard Evans noted that the title page of Expert included in the copyright application was kerned differently from the one in published copies of the book. Here are the two versions, one laid over the other. https://magichistoryblog.files.wordpress.com/2020/02/copyright-page-anomal...
by Bill Mullins
February 22nd, 2020, 11:35 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7511
Views: 2252086

Re: ERDNASE

Clay -- When I said "edition", I was not speaking in bibliographic jargon, but was using the term as other Erdnase collectors I have seen use it. Each separate printing, distinguishable from other printings by differences in cover, pagination, typesetting, printed cover prices, binding, et...
by Bill Mullins
February 22nd, 2020, 7:49 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: David Ben on Art, the Internet, Magicians and Fake News
Replies: 12
Views: 758

Re: David Ben on Art, the Internet, Magicians and Fake News

Joe Lyons wrote:I couldn’t tell, though, was [David Ben] calling Houdini or Jesus Christ a fictional character?

I think he was quoting GBS as having said so.
Background on the quote.
by Bill Mullins
February 22nd, 2020, 7:28 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Announcement regarding new Steve Forte book
Replies: 136
Views: 13144

Re: Announcement regarding new Steve Forte book

Then I need to write them a sternly-worded letter.
by Bill Mullins
February 22nd, 2020, 2:37 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: David Ben on Art, the Internet, Magicians and Fake News
Replies: 12
Views: 758

Re: David Ben on Art, the Internet, Magicians and Fake News

Available in Alabama.
by Bill Mullins
February 22nd, 2020, 12:36 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Announcement regarding new Steve Forte book
Replies: 136
Views: 13144

Re: Announcement regarding new Steve Forte book

He already has a $300 bid. And that doesn't even include buyer's premium.
by Bill Mullins
February 22nd, 2020, 12:34 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: David Ben on Art, the Internet, Magicians and Fake News
Replies: 12
Views: 758

Re: David Ben on Art, the Internet, Magicians and Fake News

And he did a nice bit on morning TV yesterday, as well.
https://twitter.com/globalnewsto/status ... 0313031682
by Bill Mullins
February 22nd, 2020, 12:03 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7511
Views: 2252086

Re: ERDNASE

Brad -- my comments were just as much about Gallaway as they were about Benedict, and what you are saying doesn't apply to Gallaway. WRT to Benedict, if Zenner had said "I think that when McKinney went bankrupt, Erdnase still owed him for printing the book, and therefore the list of creditors c...
by Bill Mullins
February 21st, 2020, 10:10 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Announcement regarding new Steve Forte book
Replies: 136
Views: 13144

Re: Announcement regarding new Steve Forte book

And a copy is already on ebay.
by Bill Mullins
February 21st, 2020, 4:36 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7511
Views: 2252086

Re: ERDNASE

Some time back, Richard Evans noted that the title page of Expert included in the copyright application was kerned differently from the one in published copies of the book. Here are the two versions, one laid over the other. https://magichistoryblog.files.wordpress.com/2020/02/copyright-page-anomaly...
by Bill Mullins
February 21st, 2020, 4:30 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7511
Views: 2252086

Re: ERDNASE

A few days ago, I mentioned the existence of a book from the 1756 that used the word "Erdnasen". Imagine my surprise when, on Wednesday, I received Chris Wasshuber's newsletter, in which he says while revisiting the nickname theory "I found a further example from much earlier, 1756&qu...
by Bill Mullins
February 21st, 2020, 3:03 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7511
Views: 2252086

Re: ERDNASE

the performing Benedict of the 1880s/1890s may well be a different one, from Australia. It may be true that "Australia" is a bit of puffery, as you suggest, but maybe they are different guys. Hard to say right now, and as more information becomes available, it may clear the matter up. I k...
by Bill Mullins
February 21st, 2020, 2:31 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7511
Views: 2252086

Re: ERDNASE

I still don't think that his business relationship with the McKinney makes him more likely than someone without one. How can someone who had no business relationship with the book's printer be Erdnase? The fact that Benedict has been proven to have had a business relationship with McKinney is the s...
by Bill Mullins
February 21st, 2020, 12:01 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7511
Views: 2252086

Re: ERDNASE

If you give any credence at all to Smith's recollections, Hoffmann couldn't have been Erdnase. He was too old (born 1839, age 62 when the book was published); his accent would have been British (Gardner's notes show that Smith remembered the author having had an American accent); every photograph I'...
by Bill Mullins
February 21st, 2020, 10:34 am
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Kudos to Blackpool Magic Club
Replies: 63
Views: 2296

Re: Kudos to Blackpool Magic Club

they suffer from booking talent that doesn't actually represent or reflect the demographic of attendees or the real world - 95% of the booked talent this year was a white male in his 50's/60's What fraction of attendees wasn't white and male? The American conventions I've been too in the last few y...
by Bill Mullins
February 20th, 2020, 12:55 am
Forum: Magic History and Anecdotes
Topic: First use of the title, "Mentalist"
Replies: 2
Views: 375

Re: First use of the title, "Mentalist"

Sphinx, Mar 1906:
"Mr. Wm. Broderson, a prominent merchant of San Francisco, has considerable fame as an illusionist and mentalist in his city and occasionally exhibits his skill there."
by Bill Mullins
February 19th, 2020, 4:04 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7511
Views: 2252086

Re: ERDNASE

I just noticed that Markus Magnuson ("mam" here on the forum) has updated his single-page Erdnase thread , to take it as far as last fall. I hadn't been checking it, but I recall that it stayed at its initial length for some time, even as the "real" Erdnase thread grew longer and...
by Bill Mullins
February 19th, 2020, 3:32 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7511
Views: 2252086

Re: ERDNASE

Edwin S. Andrews was related (by marriage) to Louis Dalrymple. Credit to Richard Hatch for much of this research. I must admit that I don't remember that particular post, but I do have a copy of Erdnase Unmasked , which contains Richard's essay 'Reading Erdnase Backwards'. On page 27 we get the par...
by Bill Mullins
February 18th, 2020, 4:41 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Daryl's Ambitious Card Omnibus Back in Print!
Replies: 11
Views: 934

Re: Daryl's Ambitious Card Omnibus Back in Print!

Leo Garet wrote:Any help with TOC? I lead a sheltered life and genuinely have no idea what that refers to.


Table of Contents
by Bill Mullins
February 18th, 2020, 3:18 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7511
Views: 2252086

Re: ERDNASE

And as I posted here , Benedict didn't know E. C. Andrews early enough to adopt a corruption of his name for a pseudonym. When I suggested that you hadn't been reading my posts, I was accused of being "derogatory". Now it appears that you are not even reading your own posts. I clicked on ...
by Bill Mullins
February 17th, 2020, 4:47 pm
Forum: Link Watch
Topic: Kirk Douglas, Ray Bradbury, and Escher
Replies: 0
Views: 345

Kirk Douglas, Ray Bradbury, and Escher

Douglas and Bradbury share a cup of joe in this Japanese coffee commercial. At about 0:15, there is a poster on the wall behind Kirk, and it looks like a piece of M. C. Escher's artwork. (They are in Bradbury's office.)
by Bill Mullins
February 16th, 2020, 12:30 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7511
Views: 2252086

Re: ERDNASE

in any language, earth and dirt are same thing. It is disingenuous to suggest that they were (or are) distinctly different. Pavel -- I've noticed that this is how you make your case. You make a statement about how things are, or how they would have been, without giving any facts that support your s...
by Bill Mullins
February 16th, 2020, 11:56 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7511
Views: 2252086

Re: ERDNASE

Somebody had to distribute Expert and the fact that Benedict was by then a professional distributer of books is, I believe, pertinent. This actually works against Benedict. Who ever distributed Expert wasn't very good at their job. It was remaindered soon after publication. He has no known reason t...
by Bill Mullins
February 16th, 2020, 2:09 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7511
Views: 2252086

Re: ERDNASE

If you want to persuade anyone that "earth" was used less often than "dirt" in 1902, you need to show super-abundance of examples of "dirt" in print. Happy hunting, Bill. I'm not trying to persuade anyone that "earth" was used less often than "dirt"...
by Bill Mullins
February 15th, 2020, 1:21 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7511
Views: 2252086

Re: ERDNASE

Bob - your link in the post previous isn't working. Late-night network maintenance?
by Bill Mullins
February 15th, 2020, 1:17 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7511
Views: 2252086

Re: ERDNASE

What I am saying is that "earth" was almost always used for "dirt" in print in this time. " You keep making statements about how things were without backing them up. This one is easy enough to disprove. Go to Chronicling America -- the Library of Congress's free newspaper a...
by Bill Mullins
February 13th, 2020, 10:55 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7511
Views: 2252086

Re: ERDNASE

I think it has been fairly well established that the book with photographs that Vernon saw was Combined Treatise on Advantage Card Playing and Draw Poker by F. R. Ritter. David Ben located the entry for this book in the Canadian copyright records, during the period when Vernon's father worked in tha...
by Bill Mullins
February 13th, 2020, 10:44 pm
Forum: Close-Up Magic
Topic: Top Change Effect
Replies: 37
Views: 1697

Re: Top Change Effect

I don't know if how I watch magic tricks is typical of most magicians, but it has been years since a top change got by me. When I see a magician hold a deck in his non-dominant hand, and hold a single card by its back corner in the dominant hand; and if the situation is one where a change would make...
by Bill Mullins
February 13th, 2020, 10:30 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7511
Views: 2252086

Re: ERDNASE

PavelTheGreat wrote: The same standards of decency would have been applied . . .

I think you are projecting here, rather than making a statement that could be verified.
by Bill Mullins
February 13th, 2020, 10:21 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7511
Views: 2252086

Re: ERDNASE

Zig Zagger wrote: I'm in it for the riddle and for the fun process of the investigation.


As Siskel and Ebert used to say, Two Thumbs Up!
by Bill Mullins
February 13th, 2020, 2:10 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7511
Views: 2252086

Re: ERDNASE

If it is so sensible, it should be easy to find an example of a German printer who was called "Erdnase" because of his dirty nose. There are many German-language newspapers in America which have been digitized and are online; there is an extensive literature of the printing trade on Google...
by Bill Mullins
February 13th, 2020, 12:59 pm
Forum: Platform & Stage Magic
Topic: split manipulation tecnique who created?
Replies: 21
Views: 2650

Re: split manipulation tecnique who created?

From a 1939 newspaper article about and interview with Cardini: Once, while he was off duty, he was practicing some card tricks. Because it was bitterly cold, he kept his gloves on. A captain noticed him and thought it was 'dashedly clever' to do the difficult tricks with gloves on. Cardini got the ...
by Bill Mullins
February 13th, 2020, 12:40 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7511
Views: 2252086

Re: ERDNASE

Chris Wasshuber has shown me several instances of "Erdnase" in print prior to 1902. And he tells me that you Bill are aware if this if you read his book. Chris mentions one use of "erdnase" (the Ainu-Japanese dictionary I've mentioned), and two of "erdnasen", in which ...
by Bill Mullins
February 13th, 2020, 11:37 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7511
Views: 2252086

Re: ERDNASE

PavelTheGreat wrote: (what is name of Zig Zagger's candidate?)


Are you confusing Zig Zagger with Zenner?
by Bill Mullins
February 12th, 2020, 11:09 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7511
Views: 2252086

Re: ERDNASE

But you ought to concede that it could be German slang. If it was German slang, then the author of Expert was, as far as we can tell, the first person to put it down in print. The odds of this particular writer, in a book about sleight of hand with cards, deciding to use a term from a foreign langu...
by Bill Mullins
February 12th, 2020, 5:39 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7511
Views: 2252086

Re: ERDNASE

Pavel -- You keep treating "erdnase" as if it is a word (or, was a word in the 19th century). "Erdnase" is a contraction, a two-syllable word cut down from three ("er-de-nase"). There is no logical reason for the inventor of a word on paper to shorten it by one letter. ...
by Bill Mullins
February 12th, 2020, 1:49 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 7511
Views: 2252086

Re: ERDNASE

Lots to unpack here. I think you mistake "absence of evidence" for "evidence of absence". All I'm doing is pointing out that "erdnase" did not exist as a word when people are saying it was used as a nickname (last half of 19th century). If you want to assert that "...
by Bill Mullins
February 12th, 2020, 12:07 pm
Forum: General
Topic: A BOOK, A DECK OF CARDS & A DESERTED ISLAND
Replies: 31
Views: 1612

Re: A BOOK, A DECK OF CARDS & A DESERTED ISLAND

AS I said recently on another forum, the book I would take is titled How to Get Off a Desert Island.

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