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by Bill Mullins
April 23rd, 2018, 10:44 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6489
Views: 1977434

Re: ERDNASE

jkeyes1000 -- my comments on logic were meant as follows. Logic is the taking of factual statements and drawing inferences from them, supported by reasoning, induction and deduction. Where Chris falls down is the beginning. He takes statements that are not fact-based, but are suppositions, and draws...
by Bill Mullins
April 23rd, 2018, 11:18 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6489
Views: 1977434

Re: ERDNASE

Gallaway's bio is inconsistent and incomplete in several ways. . . . or his bio is not entirely correct or complete.. So, like Smith's account to Gardner, it is an account from which you can pick the parts that you like, and say they are accurate, and the parts you don't like, you can say they are ...
by Bill Mullins
April 23rd, 2018, 8:24 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6489
Views: 1977434

Re: ERDNASE

Brad Henderson wrote:his entire ‘argument’ is built on ‘well, it could have happened.’

The "Judy Tenuta" approach.
by Bill Mullins
April 23rd, 2018, 1:48 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6489
Views: 1977434

Re: ERDNASE

In any case, Gallaway left the circus in 1894, that was a year before Houdini even joined the Welsh Brothers! As for working that fair in 1896, there is no evidence of Houdini having worked in any fairs in 1896. Leonard knows nothing! First of all, Gallaway's circus time, 1891-1894, is an estimate....
by Bill Mullins
April 21st, 2018, 11:31 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6489
Views: 1977434

Re: ERDNASE

( From the passport application: Any false or misleading statement with respect to this application and any supporting document, ... may result in the refusal to issue a passport, ... and may be grounds for criminal prosecution.) Sanders' passport application is posted online at Ancestry.com. The s...
by Bill Mullins
April 21st, 2018, 2:34 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6489
Views: 1977434

Re: ERDNASE

lybrary wrote:
Bill Mullins wrote:If Brad calls me a dick, I'll call him a potty mouth. I am fair.
I never called you a dick, but if you felt being addressed then that is entirely your problem.


No, you never did. But Brad called you one, thus the parallel construction. Read for comprehension, Chris.
by Bill Mullins
April 20th, 2018, 2:49 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6489
Views: 1977434

Re: ERDNASE

For example, he says " The man who was Erdnase by Martin Gardner", and later refers to it as "Gardner's book". Gardner was one of three co-authors, and anyone who has actually read it would realize that the vast majority of the writing is by Busby and Whaley. How exactly does th...
by Bill Mullins
April 19th, 2018, 2:42 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6489
Views: 1977434

Re: ERDNASE

... it's very clear that I was not taking today's norms and experiences, I was taking norms and experiences contemporary (1906) to Erdnase. You have no idea about the norms and experiences around Erdnase's time. There were half a million people of German descent in Chicago. It was the largest ethni...
by Bill Mullins
April 19th, 2018, 2:23 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6489
Views: 1977434

Re: ERDNASE

We just learned that grooms didn't wear any wedding bands back then. If this were true, we wouldn't see hundreds and hundreds of examples of the phrases "his wedding ring" and "double ring ceremony" and "ring for the groom" before 1910 in the Chronicling America databa...
by Bill Mullins
April 19th, 2018, 1:11 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6489
Views: 1977434

Re: ERDNASE

You reject the input from domain experts in areas you know little about, Which expert are you speaking of here? Olsson has said that the samples from Gallaway are written more like Expert that the samples from Wilson, Roterberg, and Hilliar, and the very poorly selected samples from Sanders. I, for...
by Bill Mullins
April 18th, 2018, 2:10 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6489
Views: 1977434

Re: ERDNASE

What it reveals to me is that the DIL may not have known what she was talking about. One the one hand, we have a second-hand account of her opinion that a man she was associated with for a short time near the end of his life decades before was a spendthrift; on the other hand, we have documented fa...
by Bill Mullins
April 18th, 2018, 1:56 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6489
Views: 1977434

Re: ERDNASE

So you agree that you have no example of an author who wrote a really good first book without any prior writing experience. J K Rowling, Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone Bret Easton Ellis, Less than Zero Nicholson Baker, The Mezzanine Anne Frank, Diary of a Young Girl S E Hinton, The Outsid...
by Bill Mullins
April 17th, 2018, 2:49 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6489
Views: 1977434

Re: ERDNASE

The concept that Erdnase had to have written books before EATCT is (IMO) flawed, Likewise the concept that someone with knowledge of self-publishing is more likely to have been Erdnase. Is it not obvious that anyone who had a manuscript who walked into McKinney's shop had all the knowledge necessar...
by Bill Mullins
April 17th, 2018, 2:44 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6489
Views: 1977434

Re: ERDNASE

You seem to have no ability to deal with ambiguous facts and fuzzy information. I don't? I'm not the one who always, invariably, and without fail resolves any ambiguity with respect to facts surrounding Gallaway by saying they point in the direction of him being Erdnase, and I'm not the one who alw...
by Bill Mullins
April 17th, 2018, 1:18 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6489
Views: 1977434

Re: ERDNASE

...But we aren't relying on Smith for "intimate knowledge"; we are relying on him to report what he saw and heard. His account is first-hand... Not sure what you mean by first-hand. Smith's attributed comments are as reported by Gardner. The Gardner-Smith Correspondence reproduces letters...
by Bill Mullins
April 17th, 2018, 2:08 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6489
Views: 1977434

Re: ERDNASE

People don't change their character that much over time. So when you write of "one other event in Gallaway’s life which may suggest a change of heart, away from cheating people, to a path of doing good and helping others," we should not believe you? And we should ignore the example of Erd...
by Bill Mullins
April 16th, 2018, 4:25 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6489
Views: 1977434

Re: ERDNASE

You seem to be making the case as follows: 1. in 1957, Gallaway's DIL says "[EG] made a lot of money but it just slipped thru his fingers". 2. Erdnase said he "needed the money". 3. Gallaway must have been Erdnase! I don't buy this chain of reasoning because: 1. Evidence in the e...
by Bill Mullins
April 16th, 2018, 1:52 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6489
Views: 1977434

Re: ERDNASE

Gallaway’s daughter-in-law commented: He made a lot of money but it just slipped through his fingers ... he couldn't hang on to it. This not being able to hang on to the money he made could very well be due to gambling at Faro. So how did he get together the cash to afford a vacation home? One with...
by Bill Mullins
April 16th, 2018, 1:04 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6489
Views: 1977434

Re: ERDNASE

jkeyes1000 wrote: Kreskin--a man of few . . . words.

That's not the Kreskin I'm familiar with.
by Bill Mullins
April 16th, 2018, 1:01 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6489
Views: 1977434

Re: ERDNASE

Leonard Hevia wrote: That Gardner Smith Correspondence has become a kind of Keyser Soze: Talked about--but never seen. I'm on the lookout for a copy.


At this late date, the easiest way to get a copy is to buy the Houdini Magic "Expert at the Card Table" DVD set, which includes a legal PDF of the book.
by Bill Mullins
April 16th, 2018, 12:49 am
Forum: Magic History and Anecdotes
Topic: This Day in Magic History
Replies: 8
Views: 1339

Re: This Day in Magic History

Brad Jeffers wrote:Let's see if we can find one thing for each day.

April 15, 1934
Benjamin Ruker aka Black Herman dies of a heart attack after collapsing on stage during a performance in Louisville KY.

As did Tommy Cooper, in 1984, live on TV, also on Apr 15.
by Bill Mullins
April 16th, 2018, 12:17 am
Forum: Magic History and Anecdotes
Topic: This Day in Magic History
Replies: 8
Views: 1339

Re: This Day in Magic History

I corrected that post for you. Thanks! Why have we not seen more of these kinds of things from you (not the error, the cool "Day in Magic History" posts)? For the same reason I never finished the Kid Canfield article I promised Richard -- fundamentally, I'm a lazy slug. That post came abo...
by Bill Mullins
April 15th, 2018, 3:00 pm
Forum: Magic History and Anecdotes
Topic: This Day in Magic History
Replies: 8
Views: 1339

Re: This Day in Magic History

A full year later, I realized a typo above. That should be Charles Carter, not Howard Carter.
by Bill Mullins
April 14th, 2018, 11:40 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6489
Views: 1977434

Re: ERDNASE

Gallaway did use snippets of classic literature in his writing. In 1906 he wrote a petition to establish lending libraries at two facilities of the Odd Fellows which starts: WHEREAS, "In sickness, in sorrow, in the most doleful days of dejection, or in the most gloomy seasons of the calendar, ...
by Bill Mullins
April 14th, 2018, 6:09 pm
Forum: General
Topic: The Pallbearer's Review - Best Magazine in History
Replies: 12
Views: 3335

Re: The Pallbearer's Review - Best Magazine in History

Leo Garet wrote:But as for best: "What is best"?
I have no idea.

"Conan! What is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies. See them driven before you. And to hear the lamentations of their women."
by Bill Mullins
April 13th, 2018, 9:28 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6489
Views: 1977434

Re: ERDNASE

Richard Hatch wrote: I agree that based on Marshall Smith's eyewitness testimony concerning the author's age and lack of a foreign accent, we can probably rule him out.


He did say "back east" -- do you suppose he meant as far east as England?
by Bill Mullins
April 13th, 2018, 7:04 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Doug Henning's The Magic Show on Amazon Prime
Replies: 9
Views: 565

Re: Doug Henning's The Magic Show on Amazon Prime

The current Haversat and Ewing auction has a couple of lots related to Doug Henning.
by Bill Mullins
April 13th, 2018, 6:34 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6489
Views: 1977434

Re: ERDNASE

Not if you move inward as the text instructs. As Erdnase states it is a downward and inward movement. That means the hand is not only going down but also inward . I fully agree that the hand has to come inward -- it has to, to get out from under the cards. He says, "give the hand a slight swin...
by Bill Mullins
April 13th, 2018, 4:46 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6489
Views: 1977434

Re: ERDNASE

BTW, the edges shown are not the edges of a table. They are the edges of the shuffle board Erdnase is using and Smith mentions. The text says, "In seizing the deck, if it is slid to the table edge . . . " The obvious reason why the cards held in the hand appear wider is because they are t...
by Bill Mullins
April 13th, 2018, 2:54 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6489
Views: 1977434

Re: ERDNASE

(and notice how the portion of the deck in the hand is wider than that on the table. This would make sense if the hand were closer to the viewer than the tabled portion, bu the text says to draw the hand "inward" when doing this move.) The obvious reason why the cards held in the hand app...
by Bill Mullins
April 12th, 2018, 10:56 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6489
Views: 1977434

Re: ERDNASE

-In Fig 16, the left edge of the table would be parallel to the left edge of the tabled portion of the deck, since the deck and table are on parallel planes, and their front edges are parallel. Another error by Bill who doesn't understand perspective. If I remember this correctly then Tom Sawyer ha...
by Bill Mullins
April 12th, 2018, 10:12 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: Doug Henning's The Magic Show on Amazon Prime
Replies: 9
Views: 565

Re: Doug Henning's The Magic Show on Amazon Prime

De Paula seems to have first come onto the scene when he was part of the touring company for The Magic Show -- I can't find any references to him elsewhere before that. But after that, he did work as a magician for several years, appearing often at the Magic Castle. Usually it was "Peter de Pau...
by Bill Mullins
April 12th, 2018, 9:54 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6489
Views: 1977434

Re: ERDNASE

What he is presuming is that if you have larger hands, sleights will be easier than if you have smaller hands. But there's no way for a person with either small or large hands to know that -- you have to have both to be able to make the comparison. Jonathan's right.
by Bill Mullins
April 12th, 2018, 1:44 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6489
Views: 1977434

Re: ERDNASE

And for the record, because Bill Mullins makes a habit to misrepresent my published opinion, I have two name theories which I consider about equally likely for Gallaway. One is the German nickname theory, the other is the Edward-Subterfuge-and-Ruse-becoming-E.S.-Andrews-spelled-backwards theory. My...
by Bill Mullins
April 11th, 2018, 1:06 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6489
Views: 1977434

Re: ERDNASE

And the advocates of Sanders, such as Bob, seem to be arguing against Chris solely because they must find fault wherever they can. The irony is that they are compromising their own case by admitting that there might have been more than one illustrator. 1. Although not an advocate of Sanders, exactl...
by Bill Mullins
April 10th, 2018, 4:58 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6489
Views: 1977434

Re: ERDNASE

Further to that, if you compare the lettering on the illustrations they all look similar, for all illustrations. Eoin O'Hare has uploaded all the figures to a single page . Compare the "g" in Fig. 33 (big loop, small descender) to the "g" in Fig. 32 (small loop, big descender). ...
by Bill Mullins
April 10th, 2018, 4:36 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6489
Views: 1977434

Re: ERDNASE

lybrary wrote:But we may get an interesting new set of data. Joe Crist just published his version of Expert, where each illustration was exchanged with a photo showing his hands.


David Ben has already gone down this road, with The Experts at the Card Table (photographs by Julie Eng.)
by Bill Mullins
April 10th, 2018, 4:33 pm
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6489
Views: 1977434

Re: ERDNASE

but then again I am not an illustrator. I am not a linguistic I am not an expert on the pre WWI printing technology I am not a lawyer I am not a specialist on [E. S. Andrews]. I am not an expert [on handwriting analysis] I am not an expert on [W. E. Sanders] I am not a pro magician I am not a nativ...
by Bill Mullins
April 10th, 2018, 3:21 pm
Forum: Buzz
Topic: New John Thompson Book
Replies: 86
Views: 10490

Re: New John Thompson Book

Denis Behr wrote:Here's a performance snippet of one of those miracles: http://www.conjuringarchive.com/storage/gifs/table.gif


Have you considered one of the low-calorie beers?
by Bill Mullins
April 10th, 2018, 12:55 am
Forum: General
Topic: ERDNASE
Replies: 6489
Views: 1977434

Re: ERDNASE

How do you know that the left-hand proximal phalange isn't inclined towards the viewing plane? Thanks, Chris, for making my point for me. We don't know in either this illustration, or in Fig 79, whether the part being measured is in the plane of the drawing or not. So it is impossible to make accur...

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