Excellent. Probably a "useful" book too. I bet it would be just right to leave almost hidden so people can ask about it.Originally posted by Robert Allen:
The Protocols of the Elders of Magic. "Only 1 secret, but it's a killer!" ...
Like the other 499 of us, you are getting two-tenths of one percent of an entire limited production run of a book written by a highly respected author, published by a highly repected publisher. You are getting a signature -- hopefully on the inside of the book -- by the man who wrote it. You are getting bragging rights. For pity's sake man, what more do you want? Full disclosure? What's wrong with you?Originally posted by britesq:
I bought one and I wish I knew what I was getting.
To start with, the guy's name was not a secret, it was just too much for the folks of the time to bother investigating.Originally posted by Horsk:
Yeah, right... like you could keep Erdnase's real name a secret.
I guess it depends on the meaning of "practical purpose," but assuming the purpose of a book review is not always to sell copies (which is quite true), I think there are many other reasons why a book review remains appropos despite a book's sold-out status.Since this book is sold out, there is no point in ... giving a review since it will serve no practical purpose.
That, unfortunately is pretty much the problem IN our craft.Originally posted by crimsonking:
Let's respect the Secret!
Secrets are one of the most important tools that Magic Fraternity has got to preserve themselves.
I love Secrets!...
Okay, so beyond "bragging rights" does the book have any utility?Originally posted by Bob Baker:
I received mine and thought, "That's it??"
I'll admit that it grows on you some, but I think that the marketing was more "brilliant" than the book. After all, if you had known in advance what it was, would you have plunked down the $50?
I think not.
Kewl, I guess this means we are in store for a collection of Dai Vernon's kids paintings and drawings he kept on the fridge over the years that inspired him to come up with the material in his "secrets" books. How about the cocktail napkins Lewis Ganson used to take notes ( or authorized copies thereof) for the deluxe edition?Originally posted by Robert Allen:
Oh come on :) First it was only $50. Docc Hillford has sold super-uber-super-secrets for a lot more than that. Second, there was absolutely no info on what it was about. Third it was by Max Maven. No disrepspect meant to Mr. Maven, but if I was him and saw how much his books have gone for on the 'bay over the years, I would be mightily tempted to release such a book where each page simply had the number "42" on it :) .
And some of us paid and were not happy with the value received. Besides, I'm not sure comparing Docc and Max is such a fair rasslin' match.Originally posted by Robert Allen:
Oh come on :) First it was only $50. Docc Hillford has sold super-uber-super-secrets for a lot more than that.
That's correct. And absent any specific information, I'd venture to say most of us relied on our respect for both Maven and Minch -- respect earned over the course of many years.Second, there was absolutely no info on what it was about.
Maybe you would, Robert, but I don't expect Max or Stephen to do so. And Prism certainly demonstrated a level of restraint that should be acknowledged.Third it was by Max Maven. No disrepspect meant to Mr. Maven, but if I was him and saw how much his books have gone for on the 'bay over the years, I would be mightily tempted to release such a book where each page simply had the number "42" on it :) .
Hmmm, I must have missed that. The only changes I see (at least in the auctions for the Maven book) is that some do not include "The" in the title.Originally posted by Matthew Field:
I love the fact that two of the sellers can't even get the title correct.
It it my understanding that one of the reasons the book sold out so quickly is that several people ordered multiple copies, as many as 5 in one case. No doubt this was done in some cases as an investment, with the intent to resell at a profit. Which is what seems to be happening on eBay now...Originally posted by crimsonking:
I'm very very disappointed by all the people who are selling or will sell their "PROTOCOLS" on ebay.
It is your right to sell your book..
but it seems to me very early to see the book on ebay right now.
Maybe the secret of the book isn't the point. Maybe, in part, it's a demonstration to see who has the integrity to abide by a simple request.Originally posted by Dave Le Fevre:
If it's so important that it be kept secret, then why was it published?
Originally posted by Jonathan Townsend:
Agreed about secrets Crimson, as Del Ray and others have demonstrated.Originally posted by crimsonking:
[b] ...Maybe i focused too much on the "secret".
The point is Mr.Minch asked a very simple thing.
Why ruin it all selling the "PROTOCOLS" on ebay after 2 minutes!...
Also agreed about things being better if people did treat secrets differently. I've written about that elsewhere. Look for the questions about the value of a surprise and the cost of a secret.
Puzzled though about what Mr Minch may have asked. If it's not too much to ask... what did he ask that you feel was not honored? [/b]