We have that!What if magic would have one. One shop, amazing variety of stock, all the exclusive stuff etc. etc.
H & R
I certainly hope so. I was shocked to see them advertising in it in the first place.Originally posted by Steve Shepherd:
Great news though, if you order 50 bucks worth of knock-offs, you get a free set of Slydini silks along with a routine for doing it!
I honestly can't imagine such a beautiful routine being used as a free give away. It's disgraceful what they are doing to magic, and perhaps the I.B.M. will stop taking their money for advertising in the Linking Ring.
How about maintaining a 'Black list' ? ...Here in The Netherlands, magicians and dealers who are "dirty" can not advertise anymore in magic catalogue and not permitted to come to any magic conference.
There is an oath that IBM members take. I think it would be fair that if shop owner did not follow/beleive in the oath, IBM Linking Ring officials should not be allowing them to advertize in our magazine.How about maintaining a 'Black list' ? ...
problem...neutral people should maintain that list...who will decide ? where do we start?
It already exists. The Statutory Invention Registration: SEE HEREOriginally posted by Colin Gilbert:
What is needed, is, some sort of governing body where you could send your magical idea's/inventions (with a fee) for them to be registered etc.
That's the part that doesn't work. For example, our IBM Ring will likely host a convention next year. We will be the ultimate authority. And if we make an exception, either deliberately, or just because we have other things to do than run complete inventory and background checks on each of a half-dozen dealers, there is no way to compel us otherwise.
Though not a 'proper' patent, it would give the inventor sole marketing rights etc. for x amount of years, during which time if anyone is found illegally making/selling it, they would have all advertising stopped and barred from all conventions. No exceptions.
The Clever Candy Trick is made in China by the same Chinese slaves who make all of the knockoffs for Magic Makers. This one is a real dog. Most of the time, the insert is a very sloppy fit. Nevertheless, it has really cut into George Robinson's business.Originally posted by SPURLOCK:
I just came across another knock off of The Life Saver Trick... Its called The Clever candy Trick. The tube is printed LifeSavors.
The quality is not that great, but the price of $15.00 is. I don't know who made it for there is no name on it. I picked this up at a magic Flea Market.
Has anyone else seen this? :whack:
Bill, the issue is not so much with getting a patent - that one can do reasonably cheaply. I did my first patent all alone and it cost me about $200 (back in Austria). But even if you go with a lawyer I would say it is affordable for many magic ideas.Originally posted by Bill Mullins:
Usually the response to this question is "it's too expensive". It seems hypocritical to me for an inventor to decline to spend money to protect his rights, yet to expect others to give up money (publishers to give up ad revenue, for example) to protect those rights for him.
You're not breaking any law, yet. But Penguin may not be breaking a law, if there is no legal protection for your trick. Please bear in mind that I do not in any way condone what they are doing. It is totally unethical.Originally posted by Colin Gilbert:
So who IS actually breaking the law? Myself by the sounds of it for wanting to stop Penguin the right to 'fair trade' of my effect. Excuse me while I go and bang my head against a wall.....
Aside from the pretense that 'I did what I could', there is no reason to whine. Your choices are your own. How you spend your time is up to you. You trade your efforts for money. You trade your money for goods and services. How you use your money is how you exercise your will in this economy.Originally posted by David Mitchell:
This is going to sound like a dumb question...I mean, we can whine and stomp our feet all we want, but all that's going to do is give you sore knees....Why is this issue generating such a passive reaction? You should all be PI$$ED! It could be YOU that loses something the next time it happens.
But what if, like myself, I haven't licensed any effect to anyone? Is it now simply a case of 'if you have a new effect, keep it. Once you've sold the seceret, you've also lost the rights'?Originally posted by Jonathan Townsend:
re: Magic Thought Police:
If you want less piracy, buy direct. And if the inventor wants to license his material to a distributer... consider the consequences.
Martin:Originally posted by Martin R Breese:
I had a reply from someone called Kevin at Penguin Magic in response to my email asking them to stop making and selling Colin's effect.
This is the reply:
We are sorry that you feel that way. In any case, it is the manufacturer who you will want to direct these complaints to. We are a retailer.