Thanks for responding, John. I can see that - then they're not screaming out about the fake thumb and trick cards and stuff. I've got a couple of book tests and some card stuff where I don't touch the cards, so I can pretty much hold them on that (at least it's worked in the past).Originally posted by Brown Hornet:
Well when I get a request for this age group, I don't do magic -- this is the time when many kids are too cool for magic. I do a mentalism show for this age group. I tie in some Harry Potter stuff too. It' goes over well.
Yeah - I used to wear a big huge goofy hat and bow tie. Suddenly it dawned on me that I looked like a clown to this age group (no makeup or other stuff, though), and they weren't going to give me anything but a hard time!If you are looking for a way to grab this age group, make sure you think about your look. This is not the time for the goofy looking ties and the colorful run rabitt run props...if they see this stuff you are in for an up hill battle.
Good thoughts! I have the Invisible Deck (it's buried somewhere!), but haven't worked much on a presentation other than following the instructions. It didn't seem like a "party"-type trick, so I put it aside. WOuld you be willing to share some tips on using it more effectively?Also, while wowing the parents can help...if you don't get the kids involved right away you will lose them, not to mention it is their event, your best bet would be to wow both groups at once
As to what you can use as an opener - Believe it or not I use the invisible deck to start out my show, my presentation of this trick gets the whole group involved and does wow both groups.
I've got that, and just re-read it cover to cover. It did have some good ideas. But most of the directions seemed to go towards dealing with the younger kids, except for maybe two sections dealing specifically with this age group.Also for a good understanding of how each age group reacts to tricks and what type of magic will play well to each I suggest that you get "Seriously Silly" it really breaks down each group of children so you can better understand what you are working with.
Yeah - that's why I'm going back after about a year off and re-examining everything. My show was probably aimed at about 8 years old - couldn't keep the older ones interested, and had a 5-yr-old walk up in the middle of a routine and call me boring!He did material you'd do for adults, not "kiddie" material. The typical kidshow repertoire works best for kids from 4 to 6. . . . That's why you get them looking at you like that - they feel insulted, you're playing for an audience younger than them.
I'm thinking it might be good to run through my stuff and write down my dialog, then look it over for age-appropriate wordings. (I'm a writer on my day job, so I'll catch more if it's written than if I hear myself say it.)Material should be simple and direct - no long exposition or abstraction. . . . treat them like adults but don't necessarily expect them to pick up on all the subtle things you'd expect adults to get (if you do that sort of dialog.)
I hadn't thought of the Svengali, but I was thinking of opening with a simple signed card revelation pulled on the parent, then just before the closer teaching them the trick. (With that, I was also thinking of sending the parents out of the room - "to get the cake and ice cream ready" or such - so the kids have the secret and the parents don't. Give 'em a bit of a power trip?)And it turns out that demoing and giving away Svengali decks KILLS for this age group. Show them a routine (Andy Nyman's is the best!) and then hand out the decks. Then spend a few mins walking through how they work and how to do a basic trick. Close with that, you can't top it.