Dice Cup/Walnut Shell

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Dice Cup/Walnut Shell

Postby George Olson » November 13th, 2004, 9:16 am

A magician friend asked me about a trick that utilizes a dice cup, walnut shell, and dollar bill. (the bill ends up in the shell. He thinks the dice cup is "chopped."

I recognize the thesis, but am drawing a blank on the name and manufactuer.

Any help?

Any for sale?

GO :help:

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Re: Dice Cup/Walnut Shell

Postby Frank Starsinic » November 13th, 2004, 10:07 am

I have not heard of this.
Sounds interesting tho.

I'll be checking back.

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Re: Dice Cup/Walnut Shell

Postby Pete Biro » November 13th, 2004, 11:32 am

It is a killer trick, but I forget the details. The walnuts are silent and load under a glass that is bottomless. I think James Riser makes some of the parts.

It was underground for a long time, and I think Dai Vernon had much to do with it.
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Re: Dice Cup/Walnut Shell

Postby Frank Starsinic » November 13th, 2004, 3:26 pm

Pete, I believe you're talking about
peripeteptic (sp) walnuts.

I don't think that's what he's talking about but I could be wrong.

That's the effect that Brian O'neill just re-did.
It's available and called Completely Nuts.

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Re: Dice Cup/Walnut Shell

Postby George Olson » November 13th, 2004, 7:57 pm

More on the Trick.

It was in a white box marked $25.00, "The Borrowed Bill in the Walnut," either "Royal Magic"
or CT ?? It had a leather dice cup, a shot glass, the gimmicked walnut that's it; so far!

They saw it at Mel Babcock's house yesterday. Mel didn't want to sell it.

I think I'll contact Mel.

GO

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Re: Dice Cup/Walnut Shell

Postby BrendanK » November 13th, 2004, 9:51 pm

"Totally Nuts"? - see advert on:-

http://www.themagicwarehouse.com/general2.html

Is the glass truly a shotglass? Bottomless glass needs to be large enough to hold the 3 walnuts.
You would need a cover for the glass to allow the hidden travel of the walnut - perhaps the leather cup is the correct size?

Described in 'Feints and temps of Harry Riser' as 'The Walnuts Trick' referencing 'Vernon Chronicles Vol 2"

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Re: Dice Cup/Walnut Shell

Postby Frank Yuen » November 14th, 2004, 6:56 am

George,

That would be C&M productions who created the effect that you're looking for. We carried this item when I worked at a magic shop in the early 90's. I wasn't able to find any reference to them other than this link but good luck.

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/view ... &forum=115

I also found this reference to the Roval Borrowed Bill in Walnut. This box actually looks like what I remember from the shop I worked in but I remember the "C&M Productions" as well because we also carried their Ring Flight.

http://www.gary-michaels.com/ebay.html

Frank Yuen

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Re: Dice Cup/Walnut Shell

Postby Guest » November 14th, 2004, 8:53 am

C&M Productions is based in Tacoma, Washington and is alive and well. Here is the website:

http://home.earthlink.net/~roval/cmprod/

Nice people, great products. Unfortunately, I did not see the trick you're looking for in their current catalog. However, email Scott Markham and I'm sure he'll give you all the help he can. --Asrah

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Re: Dice Cup/Walnut Shell

Postby George Olson » November 14th, 2004, 9:12 am

WOW!

What a great group!

Thank you!

I'll pass this information off to them today!

Again, thanks a lot!

GO

Now, if I could only locate the meaning of life?? :rolleyes:

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Re: Dice Cup/Walnut Shell

Postby Jon Elion » November 14th, 2004, 11:23 am

Everyone knows that the meaning life, the universe and everything is "42"!

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Re: Dice Cup/Walnut Shell

Postby Guest » November 15th, 2004, 8:52 pm

Nonsense, Jon, my good friend! We seem to be in a "Catch 22" here, as the meaning of the universe is not "42", but "69"! Everything goes round and round, ending back where it started eventually.

;)


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Re: Dice Cup/Walnut Shell

Postby Guest » February 27th, 2006, 6:18 pm

The routine I found in the late 80's early 90's involved a borrowed bill, the serial number is written down by the lender. Bill is crumpled into a ball and a chop routine follows with a dice cup and the borrowed bill. Bill makes final appearance under cup, is unfolded and shown to be a jumbo bill with a walnut wrapped inside. Nut is broken open by spectator, they verify serial number.
Is that the same routine?
Arthur

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Re: Dice Cup/Walnut Shell

Postby Guest » February 27th, 2006, 6:20 pm

I believe the routine was called borrowed bill in walnut shell.
It did come in a white box, came with a chop dice cup, jumbo bill and hot bill, plus very full instructions.
Arthur

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Re: Dice Cup/Walnut Shell

Postby Guest » August 9th, 2006, 6:52 am

I just bought one last weekendat the Abbott's It's Roval's BORROWED BILL IN WALNUT.
It came with: gimmicked leather dice cup, set of dice, shot glass, 2 oversized bills, one very realistic gimmicked regular sized bill.

Effect: A bill is borrowed and the serial number is writted on magicians card. The bill is rolled into a ball and used in chop cup routine. The bill ultimately vanishes, only to be found in a walnut rolled within a jumbo bill produced as the final load. The serial number is verified as the borrowed bill.

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Re: Dice Cup/Walnut Shell

Postby Guest » August 9th, 2006, 11:30 am

Yes, that's the one. I sold one last year. No longer made.
I believe, anyway.
Damon


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