Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Guest » January 29th, 2004, 7:42 am

I must say WOW. I'm am deeply interested in this retention myself. I want to be one of the first to know when this gets published!
On a side note...I've modified Paul Harris' Bizarre Twist and would like to know how to contact him or some way to get the info out. My handling of it is super clean to me and it simply needs to be known. Thanks much,

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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Richard Kaufman » January 29th, 2004, 7:51 am

I've now seen Mickey Silver's tape and have to say that I am mystified as to how his Retention Vanish can look so good.
Hmmmmmmmmm
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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Pete Biro » January 29th, 2004, 5:54 pm

Send Mickey to my studio and will take some incredible photos... hah, but will still photos do it justice??????????

I think the coin is shimmed and he has a huge magnet implanted in his palm, ear and under his tongue... :D
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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Rick Schulz » January 30th, 2004, 10:08 am

Where can we see these routines, please? :help:

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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Pete Biro » January 30th, 2004, 10:17 am

Ask Mickey for a demo vid
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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Guest » February 6th, 2004, 6:37 pm

Of all the coin work I've seen, nothing compares to this...

Watch this space...we may have some REAL good news for those who have not seen this yet...I gotta keep quiet until then... ;)

He IS working on a teach-in...it may be a while yet...you know how those things go...I hope sooner than later!

Meanwhile...expanded shells and C/S, and Hopping Halves for me! I've tried replicating Mickey's SUV in front of the bathroom mirror over and over, and ended up dropping my silver dollar in the commode! :rolleyes:


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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Guest » February 20th, 2004, 6:21 am

Well, I got my tape yesterday evening and I must say that I have to agree...it is the BEST rov I've seen in 16 years of magic.

Mickey did a heck of a job and should consider publishing it. The thinking behind the vanish is what amazed me...and got me thinking again. ;) I just want to thank you, Mickey, for what you did, you are quite a gentleman.

In thinking this over, it would be neat imo to write a book with this in it and other contributions from magi world wide into one collective coin reference. Only one man would be right for the job and based on the best magic book ever printed (the collected almanac of course) I nominate Richard Kaufman. ;)


Anyway, the vanish is top notch along with his sleight of hand. Definately worth checking into. Thanks a million Mickey,

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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Rick Schulz » February 23rd, 2004, 11:24 am

I saw the demo of Mickey's ROV vanish this weekend - "WOW!!" hardly comes close! I hope he publishes the mechanics of this sleight and/or comes out with a "teaching" DVD soon. Or better still, perhaps he will share with just a few of us! :D :D

Thanks for sharing this with us, Mickey!

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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Guest » March 28th, 2004, 1:30 pm

Mickey was kind enough to send his demo tape all the way to Denmark (thank you again, Mickey) so I could see what you all were yelling about...
Now I had to yell, scream and laugh, too! That move is absolutely AMAZING!
The normal ROV is absolutely convincing, and I'm not that old in the field of sleight-of-hand coin magic, so I still remember how I felt when I first saw David Roth do it on one of his tapes: it looked like real magic.
But Mickey Silver adds a couple of other dimensions and possibilities with the additional move where the coin is shown in the hand AGAIN - after the steal! Now you're really convinced that the coin is in the hand!
This gives you a really strong weapon and even opens up for improvisation on the way.

And the Human Slot Machine - I had the whole family laughing when we saw that one: Mickey pulls tons of coins out of ears, eyes and mouth in an incredible speed! Amazing - again, and very funny!

Can't wait to get the secrets on the upcoming DVD.

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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Richard Hatch » March 28th, 2004, 10:00 pm

Mickey was kind enough to send me a copy of his demonstration tape as well and the move is incredible in his hands. Add me to the list of those eager to learn the details when the DVD version becomes available. Thanks, Mickey!

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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby mike cookman » April 13th, 2004, 1:45 pm

I, too, would like to learn Mickey's retention vanish stuff. Watching him on the tape made me smile at how much he fooled me. That was really fun.

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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Pete Biro » April 13th, 2004, 4:30 pm

I understand that in order to do Mickey's incredible moves the first thing you have to do is change your name to xxxxxx SILVER, or it won't work

The list of first names is short, so hurry. :p
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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Jon Elion » April 14th, 2004, 4:15 am

I've got first dibs on "HiYo", Kemosabe!

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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Guest » April 14th, 2004, 7:34 am

Originally posted by Jon Elion:
I've got first dibs on "HiYo", Kemosabe!
If "HiYo" has gone, then I'll have to take "Copper". :)

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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Pete Biro » April 14th, 2004, 9:36 am

Nickle Silver here... we're off to a good start. :sleep:
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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Stefan Sprenger » April 14th, 2004, 10:22 am

Hi there,

ist there any chance for a guy form Germany to see it too??

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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Adrian Kuiper » April 15th, 2004, 7:45 am

Sterling would be my choice.

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Postby Guest » April 15th, 2004, 10:11 am

...or how about Quick.

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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Pete Biro » April 15th, 2004, 11:04 am

Youse Guys are too clever... love your choices. Sterling is the best so far...
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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Larry Barnowsky » April 20th, 2004, 2:55 pm

If you think the Silver Ultimate Vanish looks good on his demo tape, you won't believe it when you see him do it in person. I saw Mickey do this literally surrounded by magicians and laymen and he absolutely floored them. No gimmmicks, no devices, just pure sleight of hand mechanics perfected.
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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Guest » May 8th, 2004, 7:29 pm

I was one of those surrounding Mickey at the Conclave Convention while doing his coin magic and it floored everyone in the room. Mickey has great ideas for using this retention vanish (it has certain applications that other retentions don't). Not only is Mickey good at magic, but he's a really nice guy! I think the magic world needs more people like Mickey (perfectionists as well as great performers) and I look forward to this dvd (or whereever it's published).

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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Guest » October 5th, 2004, 11:53 am

I was there too, and he was awsome! I got the nerve to show him my vanish, and it actually impressed him.... no, I'm not great.... just got lucky trying an unknown vanish. He might just be the catalyst to get me more into coins.

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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Guest » October 5th, 2004, 1:04 pm

I am now dying to see this vanish.

Mr Silver, I can send you a self addressed stamped packing envelope if needed for me to see this demo. It sounds incredible. If this brings even half the wonder that the regular retention vanish can I am in.

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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Richard Kaufman » October 5th, 2004, 7:10 pm

Mickey was at the MAGIC Live! convention in August, and I asked him to do his thing for some well-posted sleight of hand men. All were dumbfounded.
And, it's true, it DOES look better in person than on video.
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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Guest » October 6th, 2004, 2:54 pm

OK guys - Where can we get the next word on this thing?

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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Joe Pecore » October 6th, 2004, 3:39 pm

Just got the demo DVD and I couldn't stop watching it. This has got to be the biggest improvement to the ROV in quite some time!

Great work Mickey!
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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Jon Racherbaumer » October 15th, 2004, 11:15 pm

Vernon said it and Goshman took it to heart.
"Learn to do something better than anyone else and you will gain an enduring reputation." (Paraphrase)

Goshman worked on Spellbound.

Mickey Silver has done this with his Retention Vanish and Retention Sell. This cleanses one of the doors of perception that has only been opened a crack.

In his enthusiasm Mickey tends to overdo it, but in a zany sort of way it's infectious and delightfully over the top. When he calms down in due time, the near perfection of the concept will be complete.

Great job, Mickey.

Onward...

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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby mago » October 16th, 2004, 7:43 am

Jon,

I predict that when Mickey finally places his video on sale, it will be the largest selling video of our time.

He is considering also private teaching videos that I am sure will also sell very well.

And he sends his demo videos all over the world for free!.

What a wonderful, kind and creative magician he is.

I feel that I have been blessed living long enough to have seen his incredible magic.

Onward and upward, Jon.

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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Gary Kosnitzky » October 19th, 2004, 12:28 pm

Hey Mickey................I watched you perform your Silver's Ultimate Vanish at the MAGIC LIVE Convention. Visually there was no doubt in my mind that the coin was placed in your left hand. The burn you create is a very strong one. Your vanish is fascinating.

Why or how does it work? If you would rather keep it sub rosa for now and would rather not talk about it I understand.

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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Mickey Silver » October 19th, 2004, 1:18 pm

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Hi Gary, it was a pleasure meeting you at Magic Live. Your "NEW" coin toss routine was fasinating!! I would be happy to answer your question regarding my retention vanish.

I believe: Traditional coin vanishes provide the spectator's with CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE of the coin being transferred to your other hand. That circumstantial evidence often becomes SUSPECT EVIDENCE as soon as you open your hand to show the "vanish" and thus they look towards your other hand -- the guilty one. My Silver's Ultimate Vanish (SUV) substitutes the circumstantial evidence for EYEWITNESS EVIDENCE that the coin has been transferred, which is in fact (unbeknownst to them) FALSE EVIDENCE. Thus, when the hand is opened, the IllUSION of a vanish seems to be an impossible-but-true REALITY!

First you deceive their eyes --- and then they deceive themselves

Gary, think really hard about this!


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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby thecardman » October 19th, 2004, 1:25 pm

Personally, I can't wait to see it with my own eyes in London at the end of November.

See you at Ron's, Mickey!

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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby mago » October 19th, 2004, 2:03 pm

It has been a Very long time since I have seen magic that has turned me on as much as Mickey Silver's!

I wish that Mickey would start a preview order list so that we can order his magic dvd now and be assured to be the first to have it.

Wow, just think if we could have it by Christmas!

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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Guest » October 21st, 2004, 10:48 am

My only concern about a video or DVD teaching the SUV is that it might prove to be beyond my abilities.

And before you all get on your soapboxes and tell me that I shouldn't expect to master it in minutes, let me add that some sleights have taken me about a year to master. But I've persevered, and now I can do them.

But some sleights have proved to be beyond me.

Is the SUV "doable" by the average coin guy?

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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Jonathan Townsend » October 21st, 2004, 12:15 pm

Originally posted by Dave Le Fevre:
Is the SUV "doable" by the average coin guy?
There is only one person you can ask that question, Mickey himself.
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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Guest » October 21st, 2004, 12:39 pm

I didnt mean to pry. The question was meant to be addressed to Mickey, on the assumption that he would (at some future date) be publishing a video or DVD teaching the SUV.

And I now realise that I should have phrased my question better. Or, at least, I should have sent it to Mickey himself rather than posting it publicly.

But, as an afterthought, the same question could well be in the minds of others.

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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Arnie Fuoco » October 23rd, 2004, 8:19 pm

Having just viewed Mickey perform this vanish, I can see why every post is unanimous on this being a step forward in coin magic. It's a ground breaking sleight. However, for that very reason I suspect that it is far beyond the average magician. It's worth the many hours that you have to put in but I suspect maybe one out of a large number would put in the effort. Hope I'm wrong.
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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Guest » October 25th, 2004, 4:18 pm

What's the big deal? I got his vanish down in about an hour.....Just wanted to get your attention! I too got the demo from Mickey. What a talent. I also like how he seems to really enjoy what he does. My gut feeling on the difficulty level is, yes, this is attainable with lots of work. I think that what really sets his vanish apart is the PERFECT coordination of SO many moves and subtleties. If you do coin work, and do a decent retention vanish now, I assume that it will help as a building block to his "upgrades". That's what I am hoping anyway.

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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Guest » October 25th, 2004, 7:49 pm

How do we see this again?
I would love to see the demo tape, and would be more the happy to pay for S&H.
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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Jonathan Townsend » October 26th, 2004, 4:59 am

Originally posted by arnie:
... However, for that very reason I suspect that it is far beyond the average magician. It's worth the many hours that you have to put in but I suspect maybe one out of a large number would put in the effort. Hope I'm wrong.
Some time before my first meeting with Mickey, I realized that his sleights are important to him, and therefore decided not to notice any mechanics. A good choice as Mickey's magic looks better in person than on video.

I've spent a few hours with Mickey, and even seen inside his hand when he does the sleights. I can assure you there were no knuckle busting gymnastics or contortions, alien technology, trapdoors or special coins involved.

I am confident people will be able to learn these things when Mickey decides to teach.
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Re: Mickey Silver's Coin Retention Vanish (Silver's Ultimate Vanish)

Postby Ira Rush » November 3rd, 2004, 5:33 am

Couldn't stop watching the demo DVD that Mickey was kind enough to send me....
.... WOW

Like so many others, hoping to see more of his work !

Thanks Mickey !


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