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coin under lapel

Postby Guest » March 31st, 2005, 11:43 am

Hi everyone,

I've decided to make use of the coin under the lapel for a coin routine. The book I'm working from says to attach the coin with double-stick tape, but I've found that the double-stick tape I buy in the local office supply store doesn't stick to the fabric of a sportcoat. Any suggestions about other products that might work?

Thanks,

Alex R

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Re: coin under lapel

Postby Jonathan Townsend » March 31st, 2005, 11:56 am

Originally posted by Alex R:
...to attach the coin with double-stick tape, but ... Any suggestions about other products that might work?
David Roth is pretty explicit about what to use in his lecture. It thought the original description was good in his Expert Coin Magic. He is on tour also. Not sure if it's right to repeat his sage advice online.
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Re: coin under lapel

Postby KenAbbott » March 31st, 2005, 12:40 pm

I have used duct tape for several years. Although I tape a shell under the lapel, which is a little lighter than a coin, it will stay adhered to the lapel for months without a problem.

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Re: coin under lapel

Postby Bill Duncan » March 31st, 2005, 1:57 pm

It might be helpful to know that the coin is a shell coin. What reference are you working from?

Superglue and a small safety pin might work as well but the lapel likely wouldn't lie flat with all that weight...

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Re: coin under lapel

Postby Pete Biro » March 31st, 2005, 3:29 pm

Get some toupee tape.
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Re: coin under lapel

Postby Guest » March 31st, 2005, 4:44 pm

Thanks to all of you for the advice.

JT: no need to think about revealing the Roth. I have ECM. I didn't know there was advice in there! (Is it part of his Flurry?)

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Re: coin under lapel

Postby Frank Valenti » March 31st, 2005, 5:42 pm

Isn't there a gimmicked coin that has a small hook on the back of it? I seem to remember seeing it at a magic shop many years agao.

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Re: coin under lapel

Postby Mike Rubinstein » March 31st, 2005, 7:21 pm

Originally posted by Jonathan Townsend:
David Roth is pretty explicit about what to use in his lecture. It thought the original description was good in his Expert Coin Magic. He is on tour also. Not sure if it's right to repeat his sage advice online. [/QB]
I just talked to David this evening, and unless he took a tour of his apartment, he's still in NY
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Re: coin under lapel

Postby Bill Duncan » March 31st, 2005, 7:44 pm

The original description, in ECM says to use two coins.

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Re: coin under lapel

Postby Jonathan Townsend » April 1st, 2005, 4:51 am

In a lecture he suggested using a shell, and carpet tape to hold it in place.
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Re: coin under lapel

Postby Guest » April 1st, 2005, 5:53 am

I use the small velcro dots from the fabric store.They hold even a silver dollar.Cordially,Howard

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Re: coin under lapel

Postby Bill Wells » April 1st, 2005, 6:13 am

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Isn't there a gimmicked coin that has a small hook on the back of it? I seem to remember seeing it at a magic shop many years agao.


The coin is called a HOO COIN. It can be used with an expanded shell coin to achieve the desired effect without resorting to tape, etc.
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Re: coin under lapel

Postby Dan LeFay » April 1st, 2005, 6:30 am

I took some half dollars to a guy who has a lathe and he "shaved" about 2/3's off. I used these very thin and light coins instead of a shell.
Much cheaper, and if you loose one no big deal.
Costed me about 10 $ workmanship included.
You don't have to bother the Big Gaffers. Anyone with a lathe can do this.

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Re: coin under lapel

Postby Jonathan Townsend » April 1st, 2005, 7:35 am

Okay, if we're getting into the details...

Can also shim a coin, and use a nice STRONG magnet to hold the thing in place.

The HOO and shell idea might make a GREAT addition (hooking) to the nesting set of coins w three shells gaff that is around these days. This allows you to hood the solid coin for later reproduction and have fun with the rest of the gaff in routine.
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Re: coin under lapel

Postby mrgoat » April 1st, 2005, 11:58 am

Originally posted by Jonathan Townsend:

The HOO and shell idea might make a GREAT addition (hooking) to the nesting set of coins w three shells gaff that is around these days. This allows you to hood the solid coin for later reproduction and have fun with the rest of the gaff in routine.
In the UK, I'm sure I bought a HOOK coin years ago, or maybe I am imagining this different naming?

Far from interesting anyway :)

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Re: coin under lapel

Postby Jonathan Townsend » April 1st, 2005, 12:26 pm

Originally posted by mrgoat:
...I bought a HOOK coin years ago, or maybe I am imagining this different naming?
When I got the Bill Spooner book (sp?) and coin at Tannen's, I recall the book title as The Hoo Coin Book.
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Re: coin under lapel

Postby Bill Duncan » April 1st, 2005, 1:06 pm

I thought it was "Here's HOO with coins"

Anyway, David has suggested the shell and carpet tape, use of TWO lapel coins and use of HooCoin or coins in the routine which would allow you to unHoo the coin and reHoo it at different points in a one coin routine.

Untimately, it comes down to what effect you want. Work out the sequence without ANY coins until you are happy with the flow and the obtain the tools you need to make it work.

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Re: coin under lapel

Postby Ed Oschmann » April 1st, 2005, 3:03 pm

Double stick carpet tape (not the foam kind) works great. I also use this stuff for my flipper.

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Re: coin under lapel

Postby Guest » April 1st, 2005, 7:29 pm

Regarding Roth's (brilliant) lapel production...
Here's a thought from my notebooks:

Construct a 'tunnel' in your lapel & attach a coin to a piece of elastic that runs inside the tunnel (one end of the elastic is attached to the base of the tunnel, the other to the coin.)

This allows you to produce the (hidden) coin rom inside the 'tunnel' and then pull it away from the lapel before vanishing it again.

If anyone tries it out (I haven't) lemme know your results.

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Re: coin under lapel

Postby Mark Tams » April 6th, 2005, 7:18 pm

Several years ago, while playing with this concept, I simply epoxied a small safety pin to one side of a coin. Then I simply pin it underneath the lapel of whichever coat I'm using.


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