coin under lapel

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Postby Guest » 03/31/05 12:43 PM

Hi everyone,

I've decided to make use of the coin under the lapel for a coin routine. The book I'm working from says to attach the coin with double-stick tape, but I've found that the double-stick tape I buy in the local office supply store doesn't stick to the fabric of a sportcoat. Any suggestions about other products that might work?

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Postby Jonathan Townsend » 03/31/05 12:56 PM

Originally posted by Alex R:
...to attach the coin with double-stick tape, but ... Any suggestions about other products that might work?
David Roth is pretty explicit about what to use in his lecture. It thought the original description was good in his Expert Coin Magic. He is on tour also. Not sure if it's right to repeat his sage advice online.
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Postby KenAbbott » 03/31/05 01:40 PM

I have used duct tape for several years. Although I tape a shell under the lapel, which is a little lighter than a coin, it will stay adhered to the lapel for months without a problem.
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Postby Bill Duncan » 03/31/05 02:57 PM

It might be helpful to know that the coin is a shell coin. What reference are you working from?

Superglue and a small safety pin might work as well but the lapel likely wouldn't lie flat with all that weight...
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Postby Pete Biro » 03/31/05 04:29 PM

Get some toupee tape.
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Postby Guest » 03/31/05 05:44 PM

Thanks to all of you for the advice.

JT: no need to think about revealing the Roth. I have ECM. I didn't know there was advice in there! (Is it part of his Flurry?)
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Postby Frank Valenti » 03/31/05 06:42 PM

Isn't there a gimmicked coin that has a small hook on the back of it? I seem to remember seeing it at a magic shop many years agao.

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Postby Mike Rubinstein » 03/31/05 08:21 PM

Originally posted by Jonathan Townsend:
David Roth is pretty explicit about what to use in his lecture. It thought the original description was good in his Expert Coin Magic. He is on tour also. Not sure if it's right to repeat his sage advice online. [/QB]
I just talked to David this evening, and unless he took a tour of his apartment, he's still in NY
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Postby Bill Duncan » 03/31/05 08:44 PM

The original description, in ECM says to use two coins.
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Postby Jonathan Townsend » 04/01/05 05:51 AM

In a lecture he suggested using a shell, and carpet tape to hold it in place.
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Postby Guest » 04/01/05 06:53 AM

I use the small velcro dots from the fabric store.They hold even a silver dollar.Cordially,Howard
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Postby Bill Wells » 04/01/05 07:13 AM

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Isn't there a gimmicked coin that has a small hook on the back of it? I seem to remember seeing it at a magic shop many years agao.


The coin is called a HOO COIN. It can be used with an expanded shell coin to achieve the desired effect without resorting to tape, etc.
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Postby Dan LeFay » 04/01/05 07:30 AM

I took some half dollars to a guy who has a lathe and he "shaved" about 2/3's off. I used these very thin and light coins instead of a shell.
Much cheaper, and if you loose one no big deal.
Costed me about 10 $ workmanship included.
You don't have to bother the Big Gaffers. Anyone with a lathe can do this.
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Postby Jonathan Townsend » 04/01/05 08:35 AM

Okay, if we're getting into the details...

Can also shim a coin, and use a nice STRONG magnet to hold the thing in place.

The HOO and shell idea might make a GREAT addition (hooking) to the nesting set of coins w three shells gaff that is around these days. This allows you to hood the solid coin for later reproduction and have fun with the rest of the gaff in routine.
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Postby mrgoat » 04/01/05 12:58 PM

Originally posted by Jonathan Townsend:

The HOO and shell idea might make a GREAT addition (hooking) to the nesting set of coins w three shells gaff that is around these days. This allows you to hood the solid coin for later reproduction and have fun with the rest of the gaff in routine.
In the UK, I'm sure I bought a HOOK coin years ago, or maybe I am imagining this different naming?

Far from interesting anyway :)
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Postby Jonathan Townsend » 04/01/05 01:26 PM

Originally posted by mrgoat:
...I bought a HOOK coin years ago, or maybe I am imagining this different naming?
When I got the Bill Spooner book (sp?) and coin at Tannen's, I recall the book title as The Hoo Coin Book.
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Postby Bill Duncan » 04/01/05 02:06 PM

I thought it was "Here's HOO with coins"

Anyway, David has suggested the shell and carpet tape, use of TWO lapel coins and use of HooCoin or coins in the routine which would allow you to unHoo the coin and reHoo it at different points in a one coin routine.

Untimately, it comes down to what effect you want. Work out the sequence without ANY coins until you are happy with the flow and the obtain the tools you need to make it work.
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Postby Ed Oschmann » 04/01/05 04:03 PM

Double stick carpet tape (not the foam kind) works great. I also use this stuff for my flipper.
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Postby Guest » 04/01/05 08:29 PM

Regarding Roth's (brilliant) lapel production...
Here's a thought from my notebooks:

Construct a 'tunnel' in your lapel & attach a coin to a piece of elastic that runs inside the tunnel (one end of the elastic is attached to the base of the tunnel, the other to the coin.)

This allows you to produce the (hidden) coin rom inside the 'tunnel' and then pull it away from the lapel before vanishing it again.

If anyone tries it out (I haven't) lemme know your results.

2 cent,
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Postby Mark Tams » 04/06/05 07:18 PM

Several years ago, while playing with this concept, I simply epoxied a small safety pin to one side of a coin. Then I simply pin it underneath the lapel of whichever coat I'm using.
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