Dice stacking

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Postby Jacky Kahan » 11/11/05 03:38 PM

Hello,

I'm working on book references for Dice Stacking....
If some references are missing i would appreciate your updates....please let me know,
Thanks !

here we go :

Edward Marlo, Shoot the works - A complete Manual of Dice Manipulation
Copyright 1943
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Walsh, Audley V. Walshs Dice Dexterity, 1953, Louis Tannen, 32
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The Senator Crandall, How to Stack Dice
Copyright 1974 Clarke Crandall
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Kaufman, Richard: The New York Magic Symposium Close Up Stage Collection Two 1983
page 16 Penetrating Dice Stack (Paul Gertner): dice stacking with a magical effect. During stacking, the dice penetrate up through the cup one at a time. For the last die. the penetration reverses itself, and the three dice on top end up underneath
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Apocalypse Vol 12 No 4 April 1989 Randy Wakeman Issue
page 1627 Stacked Impact: dice stacking
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Ouellet, Gary: Close Up Illusions
1990
on page 253 Chapter 24: Rock & Roll Dice Stacking
on page 261 A Routine: a dice stacking routine
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Apocalypse Vol 20 No 04 Apr 1997
page 2780 Points In the Middle (Harold Cataquet): a dice vanishing and reappearing effect to use during dice stacking
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Apocalypse Vol 16 No 07 Jul 1993
page 2239 Twice Dice (Harold Cataquet): good color changing dice finish to a dice stacking routine
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Apocalypse Vol 17 No 05 May 1994
page 2353 Danger Dice (Harold Cataquet): dice stacking routine using a clear glass. The glass cracks, two dice "crack" in half, and the 4 die are edge stacked using another glass.
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Kaufman, Richard: Paul Gertner's Steel and Silver 1994
page 121 UpStacking--Dice stacking routine, dice stacked in familiar manner a few times, dice begin to penetrate upward through bottom of cup one at a time, eventually three dice on top of cup vanish and reappear inside cup.
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Lancaster, Lou: Commercial Closeup Magic 1994
Dice Stacking: dice stacking with jumbo die climax
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Racherbaumer, Jon: In a Class by Himself, The Legacy of Don Alan 1996
page 159 Sneakily Stacked in Your Favor: Dice stacking routine, uses one gimmicked die and cup cover (Video clips from un-named video)
page 166 How to Stack Dice: short lesson
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Racherbaumer, Jon and Edward Marlo: Arcade Dreams, Marlo Without Cards 1997
page 111 A Brief History of Dice Stacking: a brief history
page 112 Primal Dice Stacking: the basics, and an outline of Tony Platt's routine
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Lovell, Simon, Son of Simon Says, 2000, L&L Publishing
Page 143 Coins, Dice and Grandfathers Beer!
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Jay, Ricky, Dice: Deception, Fate & Rotten Luck, 2003
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thanks !

Jacky
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Postby Pete Biro » 11/11/05 03:50 PM

Zach Stacks.
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Postby Mark Collier » 11/11/05 03:52 PM

Strong, Todd: The Dice Stacking Book
Copyright 1998 Published by:
Perceptual Motion
P.O. Box 204
Point Roberts, Wa 98281
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Postby Earle Oakes » 11/11/05 04:51 PM

Bar Tender Dice Routine-Dice Stacking DeLuxe
Clarke "The SENATOR" Crandall.Copyright 1959,E.O.D.&Co. Four Page illustrated Manuscript,

Also,somewhere, in my library I have a booklet by a Frenchman (name starting with an L,I think).
I'll keep looking.

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Postby cataquet » 11/11/05 05:22 PM

Earle, the book is by Treborix and it's called "Diversions with dice".

Another classic is Bobby Bernard's "School for Croupiers" routine in Ganson's "Art of Close up Magic", and the Ganson Teach in Series booklet on dice stacking. There are a few more dice stacking references in Apocalypse, but I'll have to look these up (eg, I think there is a Randy Wakeman reference).

Bye for now

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Postby Earle Oakes » 11/12/05 05:29 PM

Thanks, Harold,you are absolutely right.
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Postby Edwin Corrie » 11/13/05 06:42 AM

"Diversions with Dice" by Treborix is a translation of "Fantaisies avec les ds jouer". There's no publication date, but mention is made of performances at conventions in 1947 and 1948, and of the original edition being published by Mayette.

There's also "Dice Dexterity" by Audley Walsh (Tannen 1953), which has a lot about stacking.

Karl Fulves' "Close-Up Folio No. 11" (1978) is devoted to dice and dice stacking, and is reproduced in the bound edition of "Chronicles".

Fred Lowe's Dice Stack is explained in "Pallbearers' Review", December 1974.

And Bob Ostin had a Corner-to-Corner Dice Stack (using a fake) in his lecture notes "Sleightly Surprising", reprinted in the recent "Bob Ostin - A lifetime of magical inventions".

In the early 1990s I saw an Austrian magician called Gerry who did a superb routine with dice stacking. I don't know if any of it is published anywhere.
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Postby Edwin Corrie » 11/13/05 07:58 AM

Just remembered another one:

"Ds: dcapitages, ramassages" by Jean-Roger Torrs

This was in the Magix Unlimited 1986/87 catalogue, though it doesn't seem to be on their website now.
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Postby Pete Biro » 11/13/05 10:26 AM

Jerry Camaro had some nice stuff on stacking but don't know if published.

Some years ago at FISM a guy stacked bigger and bigger dice winding up with a big tin trash can.

Spanish magician Camillo does one of the greatest routines and won FISM Close Up with his work.

Davenport used to sell a set of dice, when stacked the top one would rotate, thanks to a rubber band inside the stack.

If you ever see Pat Page ask him about the gag he does where his fellow magician CAN NOT STACK no matter how hard he tries.
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Postby Guest » 11/13/05 11:52 AM

Gerry has a video called Extrme Dice Stacking. I believe he is the one that Pete was referring to, seing as he stacks using a trash can. He also does some other absolutely phenomenal work that must be seen. I don't know whether there are any versions of his work in print. Incidentally, the video is dubbed from German and available on DVD through Meir Yedid.
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Postby Guest » 11/13/05 01:13 PM

For a quick overview of dice stacking, you might want to check out:

http://www.juggling.org/jw/87/3/tips.html

In addition, you might want to check out Dollar Tree for a little dice game called Dice Time....

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Postby Edwin Corrie » 12/12/05 02:59 AM

Here's quite a useful list of references if anyone is still interested:

http://magicref.tripod.com/magref/magdice.htm
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Postby Frank Starsinic » 12/19/05 03:09 AM

Don't forget Barry Govan's Dice Stacking Routine.
The best I've seen.
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