Edward Pungot wrote:Support the artists directly by buying directly through them or the publishers that they have partnered with.
Richard Kaufman wrote:When original instructions get copied verbatim, or original video footage is used, then you have copyright law on your side.
Bill Mullins wrote:jwalkmagic wrote:Unlike shouting into the wind the authorities are required by law to investigate all legitimate complaints.
What you said there is funny.
mrgoat wrote:Start a campaign, send press releases to all the magic websites, they will all run it. Set up a wordpress blog and get support.
I'm not cursing the darkness, but think trying to fight such activity is futile as it won't be stopped.
However, rallying support for complaining is made VERY easy with the internet and especially so with a closed small niche group like magi.
Tim Ellis wrote:Several years ago I started a blog called MAGIC FAKERS http://magicfakers.blogspot.com.au/ to bring this issue to the attention of the magic community.
At the time, several well known US magic companies were commissioning knock offs of top selling tricks and releasing them as cheaper "new" effects. I simply put up the "new" item side by side with the "original" item and many magicians AND magic store owners emailed me saying how helpful they found the site.
Many were unaware of the knock off situation and many dealers stopped buying the copies from those manufacturers.
I received emails of support from the original creators and LOTS of threats from the manufacturers of the knock offs.
Unfortunately, in the last two years the problem has spiralled out of control with Chinese companies like KingMagic and 52Magic setting themselves up as wholesale AND retail outlets and flooding the market with cheap knockoffs AND counterfeits being passed off as the real thing.
I have tried combating KingMagic through the legal channels of Paypal to no avail.
When Paypal, or even Ebay, stands to make money through the large number of transactions a company like this makes every day it's unlikely they will cut them off from using their services.
The only thing we can do is to make our community aware of these rip off dealers and manufacturers and yes, SOME members of our community will be delighted to discover a source of "cheap magic", but hopefully the majority will understand that supporting these people will drive creators out of our industry and they will stick to purchasing through ethical dealers only.
jwalkmagic wrote:A little like saying "there will always be house fires so why bother having a fire department?"
jwalkmagic wrote:I thought one of the reasons for a forum like this was to inform and rally support.
jwalkmagic wrote:I fail to understand why more of them do not file complaints against those who import and sell what are clearly counterfeits.
JKeppel wrote:earlier in this thread I talked about how my friend Tom Yurasits had his Confusing Crayons ripped off and that dealers in the US were selling the copy made in India. I had the courtesy to at least not NAME any of these dealers. Tonight one of those dealers emailed me and had the gall to say he wasnt MAKING the copy just selling it!!!!!!!! He thinks its ok to SELL a stolen item as long as he didnt make it. I cant belive the nerve. But, if he emails me anymore nasty letters Im naming him. Oh, also he told Tom he'd stop selling the copies if Tom would buy them off him. He actually expects the original creator to buy the stolen copies from him. words escape me lol.
mrgoat wrote: I've already told you what I would do, set up a blog, set up twitter, send out press releases. Have you tried any of that yet or are you just content to moan about the situation whilst not actually doing much?
mrgoat wrote: Again, because it is fruitless. If the music, video game, movie and manufacturing industry have been fighting this for decades and achieved nothing, then a few magicians are unlikely to succeed.