Who is renewing Real Secrets?

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Postby stereo » 01/26/13 09:38 PM

They would be really stupid to say the contrary...

I do not imagine they say that Year 2 will be bad ...
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Postby Ted M » 01/26/13 11:53 PM

I will not renew. Real Secrets has been totally underwhelming.

If I miss the Real Secrets experience, I'll order a copy of Self-Working Number Magic by Karl Fulves (readily available used for $1 + postage) and light my other $140 on fire.

This is better than reading the same book already sitting on my shelf because of the child-like surprise of getting something in the mail.
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Postby Evan Shuster » 01/27/13 12:19 PM

I'm back in for another year. I enjoy it, and particularly appreciate the on-line extras most months.
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Postby Jim Dahl » 01/27/13 02:08 PM

I probably won't be renewing. BTW has anyone received the January trick yet? I haven't gotten mine yet and we usually get them by this time of the month.
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Postby PickaCard » 01/27/13 11:17 PM

Don't forget, for those who signed up for one year at the very beginning, we are supposed to received a bonus 13th item.
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Postby Edward Pungot » 01/28/13 12:21 AM

All the tricks that RS has to offer have three things going for them:

(1) Exclusivity
(2) Embedded story-line that allows you to open a group and transition into the trick naturally. People love being caught-up in a story and if they become an integral part of that story, you've hooked them immediately.
(3) Space Management: Packs flat & plays for an assortment of people in various natural environments that you may encounter in your day to day errands around and about town.
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Postby J-Mac » 01/28/13 01:36 AM

Most likely not renewing. I agree with a few posts above in that I haven't found the items to be very magical thus far. All have been something I might show one person at a time, but they are all quite puzzle-like IMO. Nothing so far that I would add into a close-up routine.

Also, though I haven't read anyone else on this particular nit, but many months the write-ups are poorly done. Besides being full of misspellings and grammar errors, some of them have actually had errors in the method itself.

I am also not very fond of how they post some extras or added/corrected instructions on the web site and then remove them. You must continually visit the site or miss them - no history there.

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Postby Terry Oberman » 01/30/13 02:14 AM

I will definitely be renewing. I have been told by a reliable source that there are great things coming next year.

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Postby Ted M » 01/30/13 11:14 AM

"Great things coming next year?" Like what, a bar betcha with several piles of matchsticks?

Seriously, how does that claim differ from this year, when we were enticed with BIG NAME CONTRIBUTORS and promised MIRACLES EVERY MONTH... which mostly turned out to be very humble math puzzlers?

"Imagine never-before-seen miracles delivered every month directly to your mailbox. Imagine no further Real Secrets is here."

I gave them a $144 chance, and they had 12 months to deliver great things THIS year. They didn't.
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Postby Bill Marquardt » 01/30/13 12:23 PM

They promised jelly beans and receipts. What did anyone expect?
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Postby fredreisz » 01/31/13 03:18 AM

If you signed up, as I did out of faith in some of the people involved, I believe you had to also sign up for "automatic renewal." Anyone know if there is going to be any notice and an alternative NOT to renew? Peace...Fred (Reisz)
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Postby Kelly Rusk » 01/31/13 10:03 AM

I'm going to renew. I like the fact that the effects utilize more real world props that regular people can identify with. As another poster said, we can use these in our more day-to-day, natural environments. I find the creativity refreshing and challenging.
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 01/31/13 12:49 PM

It does auto-renew, but you can then opt out and ask for a refund I believe. I think the price is very fair (a mere $15 a trick) for the 12 monthly items, and the bonus items bring the price down to $7 an item. Except for one or two items (and who could expect to enjoy every single item) I've been well-pleased with my purchase.
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Postby Bob Hale » 01/31/13 04:14 PM

Definitely renewing! - I enjoy the monthly surprise in the mail and thinking about presentation ideas. It also often stimulates other ideas about the underlying principles and prompts creative thinking in general. Plus it's just plain fun!
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Postby Kelly Rusk » 01/31/13 06:22 PM

Same here. As of today's mail I haven't received the January offering. The same thing happened in December and they were quick to send me a replacement. I hope the USPS hasn't deleted me for some reason.
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Postby JimW » 02/01/13 01:12 AM

I just received the latest installment today, so watch your mail in the next few days if you are still waiting. Kelly, are you waiting for January or February?
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Postby Kelly Rusk » 02/01/13 01:23 AM

JimW I'm waiting for the January installment. They have been arriving around the 25-27th of each month. The December installment, for me, hadn't arrived by the second week of January so I emailed them and they sent a replacement by Priority Mail. The original one never arrived. I'll wait at least another week before contacting them again. I'm very glad to hear that you got yours today. That means mine should arrive any time. Thanks for the reply.
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Postby Don Hendrix » 02/01/13 05:48 PM

Arrived in Tucson today. Two goodies this month.
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Postby Don Hendrix » 02/01/13 06:17 PM

Anyone else having trouble with downloading the online portion of this month's offering? There appear to be two files to download and I can't get either to work.
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Postby Terry Oberman » 02/01/13 07:56 PM

I had no problem with either file Don.
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 02/01/13 07:57 PM

I downloaded all three items (video and two pdf files) and had no problems. Are you sure you have the latest version of Adobe Acrobat and you don't have any pop-up blockers turned on?
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Postby Mark Collier » 02/01/13 08:32 PM

How do you download the video?
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 02/01/13 09:01 PM

Google it.
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Postby Mark Collier » 02/01/13 09:38 PM

Of course....the answer to life, the universe and everything isn't 42...it's google.
I should have known that.
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Postby erdnasephile » 02/01/13 10:23 PM

Mark Collier wrote:Of course....the answer to life, the universe and everything isn't 42...it's google.
I should have known that.
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There's a cool trick Re: this included with the EMC 2012 DVD's
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Postby Kelly Rusk » 02/02/13 04:38 PM

Got the latest RS in today's mail!! Cool idea!
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 02/02/13 05:10 PM

Just got mine today. Both the "regular" item and the bonus item are excellent. The idea of doing the Hy******* with a s****** is really clever. I'm going to order some refills for that one.
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Postby Ted M » 02/02/13 06:47 PM

Will the refills spell the famous artist's name correctly on the prop?
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 02/03/13 12:02 AM

Ted M: I believe that may have been done on purpose due to IP issues.
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Postby Ted M » 02/03/13 12:23 AM

Hmm, I hadn't considered that. I know Dover press is hurting from those works (and so many others) being yanked back under copyright protection. And now I notice that these are redrawn, not the real thing. But they work fine as gestural representations.

Okay, considering it as possibly deliberate, I say: Spell it right or omit it. A misspelling in bold letters is never a wise choice. It calls attention to itself, at least among the literate.

Still, when also considering the missing period after the second initial and the larger context of RS' past history of misspellings, it looks more like editorial sloppiness than a deliberate choice.
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 02/03/13 01:52 PM

In fact, because it is not the artist's actual name and the art has been redone, and because RS vets all its items with a lawyer (as any person putting anything on the market today should) I am fairly certain they are on safe ground.

I love the item--it's a great idea.
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Postby RobertAllen » 02/03/13 02:40 PM

Ted M wrote:"Great things coming next year?" Like what, a bar betcha with several piles of matchsticks?

"Imagine never-before-seen miracles delivered every month directly to your mailbox. Imagine no further Real Secrets is here."

I gave them a $144 chance, and they had 12 months to deliver great things THIS year. They didn't.


Well they did say "imagine" :).

SuperMages new floating ball! Imagine doing a floating bowling ball in full light, with no threads, wires, cables, magnetic fields, etc.!!
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Postby Ted M » 02/03/13 04:24 PM

Yep, Real Secrets' marketing genius was in refusing to describe what they were selling, and allowing each person to imagine what they hoped it would be. Sell dreams, not products!

At renewal time, they have to sell based on the products they've actually delivered. Different ballgame.
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 02/03/13 06:25 PM

You can say that sarcastically, but I enjoy not knowing exactly what's coming until I open the envelope and read the instructions. That's fun. I have only been disappointed twice, so that's a pretty good record.

I'm going to organize all of my Real Secrets materials into a binder in the next few days.
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Postby Ted M » 02/03/13 09:55 PM

Genii scratches that monthly itch for me, and it delivers a wealth of surprises: unexpected feature articles, thoughtful performance material developed at length from multiple big names (Da Ortiz, Steinmeyer, Maven, Giobbi, Stone, etc), excellent historical explorations, additional tricks in Magicana, valuable review columns, etc. There's even some friendly and personable chatter from that guy who edits it, as compared to Mysterious Silence from the RS Powers That Be.

Genii is a monthly surprise smorgasbord at 1/3 the price of Real Secrets. That leaves me $100 to buy multiple hardcover magic books, or a year's membership to the Conjuring Arts Research Center with its wealth of information and Gibiciere, or even to try out El Manuscrito. And in my estimation, those other publishing projects do far more to support the well-being of magic as a field than does Real Secrets.

I'm also not a single-trick-buying guy, and that may be part of my beef with Real Secrets. Had they disclosed that they were mailing out only a single (tersely described, underdeveloped, barely-credited) item each month, I likely would not have joined, and their customer base would've been that much more in accord with their offerings.
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 02/03/13 11:18 PM

I don't have that perspective because Genii never scratches my itch since it's old news to me by the time it goes to the printer. But I'm flattered you feel that way!
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Postby PickaCard » 02/04/13 01:03 PM

I have "googled" how to save the streaming video this month, but each shareware I try causes problems. If you were able to save this month's video, could someone please guide me to the software that worked?

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Postby Richard Kaufman » 02/04/13 01:04 PM

Jeez, just install Real Player. Whenever a video plays, it asks you if you want to download it.
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Postby Ted M » 02/04/13 03:53 PM

There's now a link beneath the video that says "Download".

Right-click that link and choose "Save As".

It should save as a .mp4 file.

Optionally, you may correct the misspelling of the creator's name in the filename.
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 02/04/13 04:30 PM

Ted, I think we all now clearly get the fact that you're sensitive to misspellings.
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