Hank Lee's to Close

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Postby Matthew Field » 10/26/12 09:03 AM

This from Hank Lee:

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Greetings from all of us at Hank Lees Magic Factory.

We here at Hank Lees all knew it was coming. Despite Herculean efforts by Steve and Aron and Don, the handwriting was on the wall. As Steve put it, this is such a nuanced business; it is impossible for a person to learn every phase in a short time. I want to personally thank both of them for trying so hard to make it work.

Its been a long and wonderful road; nearly four decades in business. But, we have made the difficult decision to close Hank Lees Magic Factory. Sunday, October 28th will be our last day of operation.

I want to thank all of our customers and friends for their support over the past 37 years. There are no better people than you, anywhere.

I want to assure you that this closure is not forever. We will reorganize and we will be back.

If you have Gift Certificates or Reward Points, hold onto them. When we re-open, we will honor all of them.

If you have items on back order, be assured that we are working feverishly to get them out to you.

Of course, it wouldnt be Friday without our weekly Excitement. So, for the last time, check it out.

Hank

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Too bad, but he brought it on himself.

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Postby erdnasephile » 10/26/12 09:17 AM

I'm not a businessman, so please pardon this ignorant question: what would be the advantage of closing and then reopening?

Is he talking about declaring bankruptcy to get protection from his creditors?

Also, here's a dated, but interesting layperson's (well, actually a magicians parent's) take on the crime. http://dover.patch.com/blog_posts/is-this-an-illusion
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Postby The Magic Apple » 10/26/12 10:41 AM

He won't be re-opening unless they set up a gift shop in jail.

Please use common sense and DO NOT order from this guy. There is barely any inventory and he WILL charge your card and chances are, he WON'T send you the items.

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Postby Richard Kaufman » 10/26/12 11:32 AM

There's nothing remotely surprising about this.
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Postby Scott M. » 10/26/12 11:40 AM

I've never ordered from Hank Lee nor ever commented on the news of his theft and conviction. But this final posting, which implies that the reason HL is closing is because his existing staff can't pick up the "nuances" of the business, is disgraceful. For him not to acknowledge his own culpability in destroying the store's reputation and dissuading anyone from shopping there is stunning.
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Postby Dave Shepherd » 10/26/12 12:19 PM

There surely does seem to be a lot of denial in Hank's statement. As I've received those weekly email newsletters recently, which sound as though everything is normal, I've wondered why there was so little talk about the cataclysmic mistake Hank made.

I'd agree that it's probably not the best idea to place an order from Hank Lee this weekend. On the other hand, I'm not sure I would have used this thread to try to guide folks to my own business as an alternative.

Just sayin'.
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 10/26/12 01:12 PM

Here's my advice (keeping in mind the 75 MILLION dollars worth of worthless gift cards that people got stuck with when Sharper Image went out of business):

Hank writes: "If you have Gift Certificates or Reward Points, hold onto them."

B*[censored]! This business is NEVER going to reopen. SPEND THOSE GIVE CERTIFICATES AND REWARD POINTS TODAY AND TOMORROW since they are going to close on Sunday or you will probably never see a penny of their value.
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Postby Ted M » 10/26/12 01:35 PM

Any advice for folks who have paid for items "on back order"?
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Postby magicman468 » 10/26/12 02:07 PM

I can tell you this.. I bought something a week ago and this is the rudest man I have ever met. There cutomer service is horrible. Shipped me the wrong stuff. What I loser ... I hope they through the entire book at him ... Cannot STAND THE MAN!!!!
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 10/26/12 02:19 PM

If you have an item on "back order" and the business is closing Sunday, call your credit card company or PayPal IMMEDIATELY and get the charge reversed.

Magicman468: Hank Lee is in jail. Whoever you were in contact with was not Hank Lee.
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Postby erdnasephile » 10/26/12 03:02 PM

What Richard says goes for any business where you have gift cards, unrefunded tickets with airlines, etc. Typically the end user is the last creditor to be considered when it comes to paying everyone back.

Personally, I use gift certificates as soon as I receive them, as you never know these days who is going to suddenly close up shop. (I'm spending Best Buy and Barnes and Noble gift cards as we speak).
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Postby Leo Jr » 10/26/12 04:55 PM

What happens if you have streaming video thru Hanks web site?

I don't have any but was wondering what happens to these when a store goes under.

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Postby mrgoat » 10/26/12 06:21 PM

Leo Jr wrote:What happens if you have streaming video thru Hanks web site?

I don't have any but was wondering what happens to these when a store goes under.

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[censored]/paddle etc
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 10/26/12 06:49 PM

I have just heard that Hank is not in jail yet. He was scheduled to take his state-paid holiday on Oct.29, but it has been delayed and will most likely happen within the next 30 days. And, the rumor is that he is not closing shop voluntarily.
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Postby erdnasephile » 10/26/12 06:53 PM

And that's the real weakness with many of the streaming video merchants where you can't download your own copy (or dig it out of your cache)

If they go under--your investment is lost.

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Postby jwalkmagic » 10/26/12 09:49 PM

If you are in the area I would wait to see what the liquidators decide to do with the stuff.
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 10/26/12 10:04 PM

You're assuming there's anything to actually liquidate.
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Postby Rick Ruhl » 10/26/12 10:05 PM

mrgoat wrote:
[censored]/paddle etc


Hank's remake of the paddle trick?

I guess it's the special on Monday...
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Postby Kurt Lee Flickner » 10/28/12 01:26 PM

No, Richard, unless something changed Hank Lee was scheduled to not report to Jail till 10/29
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Postby Richard Hatch » 10/31/12 06:11 PM

I found this old photo (apparently from the 1994 Cape Cod Conclave) interesting:
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos- ... 8989_n.jpg
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Postby Bob Farmer » 11/01/12 08:46 AM

"Hank Lee Headline Prediction"

Effect: You predict your future.

Method: You ensure accuracy with your own actions.

Satisfaction guaranteed or Hank will apologize.
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Postby R.E.Byrnes » 11/01/12 01:51 PM

Richard's right; use gift cards, negate credit card transactions, etc. now, before Sunday. After that, the entity that was Hank Lee's Magic Factory will cease to exist in an eerily absolute way.
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Postby Ted M » 11/01/12 05:08 PM

Sunday October 28th, Hank Lee's stated last day of operation, has already passed.

The Magic Factory website is still up.

Of course Hank Lee's website has a long tradition of offering goods for sale that aren't really available.

Situation normal.
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Postby Brad Jeffers » 11/01/12 05:38 PM

Scott M. wrote:the reason HL is closing is because his existing staff can't pick up the "nuances" of the business

Good thing, as its those "nuances" that landed HL in jail.
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Postby Doug Conn » 11/02/12 12:53 PM

I found this old photo (apparently from the 1994 Cape Cod Conclave) interesting:
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos- ... 8989_n.jpg
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Postby Richard Hatch » 11/02/12 01:12 PM

Hank's friend Chuck Kirchner (also in the photo) posted it on facebook in October 2009 and identified the poser as Hank:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =3&theater
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Postby Jim Riser » 11/02/12 04:15 PM

Doug, Richard, do you mean to tell us that Hank stole another person's pose? That pose is soooo good that others might be tempted to steal it too since you posted the photo. Is nothing sacred? Would Hank steal?
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Postby Bill Mullins » 11/02/12 05:44 PM

I expect Jim to post detailed instructions, using precise machinery and exotic materials, on how to build your own pose.
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Postby Jim Riser » 11/02/12 06:13 PM

$5 for the PDF, Bill ;-)
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Postby Tom Smith » 12/03/12 12:03 PM

I just clicked to the old Hank Lee site, which is gone, and was re-directed to tricksupply.com. The information is that the site will open on 12/5 (updated from 12/1).
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 12/03/12 12:38 PM

Is tricksupply.com an existing magic company?
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Postby JHostler » 12/03/12 12:56 PM

The URL is owned by Wolfgang Wollet (Wonder Warehouse), who currently sells through various retailers. Perhaps he purchased whatever was left of Hank's stock.
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 12/03/12 03:58 PM

Sounds like he bought something from Hank.
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Postby Ted M » 12/03/12 04:37 PM

Maybe the site opening was delayed due to his goods from Hank being "on back order"...
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Postby mrgoat » 12/03/12 04:39 PM

Ted M wrote:Paying for something from Hank and actually successfully buying something from Hank can be different things.

I hope what he thinks he bought isn't "on backorder"...


He'll find out backorder has a different meaning inside...
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 12/03/12 04:50 PM

Yikes!
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Postby Kevin Connolly » 12/03/12 07:06 PM

I hate that when it happens!
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Postby Bob Gerdes » 12/04/12 05:20 PM

Richard Hatch wrote:I found this old photo (apparently from the 1994 Cape Cod Conclave) interesting:
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos- ... 8989_n.jpg



This one from Stevens Magic is also pretty interesting:

[img:center]http://www.stevensmagic.com/personallyspeaking/aug05/Hank%20Lee%20picks%20Joe%27s%20pocket%20-%20again!.jpg[/img]

http://www.stevensmagic.com/personallys ... 05/ps2.htm
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Postby erdnasephile » 12/04/12 05:33 PM

^^^
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