The vernon touch book

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Postby TheWorkingMagus » 08/25/12 12:14 AM

Hey there, do you know where can i buy a copy of this book, used or new?

Thanks very much.
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 08/25/12 10:45 AM

I might as well announce now that The Vernon Touch has gone out of print.
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Postby TheWorkingMagus » 08/25/12 10:57 AM

You might as well announce a reprint!! Pretty please with sugar on top!
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Postby Bill Mullins » 07/25/13 03:55 PM

This book has gotten _expensive_ on the secondary market.
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 07/25/13 04:07 PM

How expensive?
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Postby Bill Mullins » 07/25/13 05:00 PM

There's one on eBay right now for $340.

That may not mean anything, but amazon has no copies available, and it is scarce to nonexistent at other places (Abebooks, etc.)
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Postby AJM » 07/25/13 05:03 PM

It's a great book.
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Postby erdnasephile » 07/25/13 05:14 PM

OP: It's wonderful to have it all in one place, but I can't help but point out that if you're a Genii subscriber, you already have access to "The Vernon Touch" :D
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Postby mrgoat » 07/25/13 06:27 PM

I'd sell mine for $340.

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Postby Bill Mullins » 07/25/13 08:18 PM

I'd sell mrgoat's copy for $300.
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Postby Ted M » 07/25/13 10:54 PM

A seller asking for $340 isn't the same as buyers paying $340.

A copy sold on July 3 for $31.

More tellingly, a copy failed to sell on July 18 for the asking price of $60.
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Postby Leonard Hevia » 07/17/14 09:20 PM

There's a copy up on eBay with a starting bid for $14.95 plus $5.95 shipping:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-VERNON-TOUC ... 1376372765
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Postby Rick Ruhl » 07/17/14 11:18 PM

Yes, reprint , please..
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Postby erdnasephile » 07/17/14 11:38 PM

At IBM/SAM, the last precious few copies were available for purchase IF a 3 year subscription for Genii was bought at the same time.

This was (is) a GREAT deal, so if you really want the book, you might check with Richard to see if this special offer is still available.

Good luck!
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 07/18/14 12:40 AM

Those few copies left were packed up and will next resurface at the Magi-Fest at the end of January. We have none here.

The book is too expensive to reprint.
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Postby Barefoot Boy » 07/18/14 01:19 AM

The book is absolutely fantastic and well worth your efforts to seek it out.
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Postby PickaCard » 07/18/14 09:44 AM

Richard Kaufman wrote:Those few copies left were packed up and will next resurface at the Magi-Fest at the end of January. We have none here.

The book is too expensive to reprint.


Richard, if you don't mind me asking, why would a book in high demand be too expensive to reprint? Is this because there is a risk in being stuck with many unsold copies? Maybe a smaller print run and higher price tag would be the answer?
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 07/18/14 04:18 PM

It's a large book, 600 pages, on enamel stock. Expensive to print, and expensive to ship. And it has a retail price of $70.

It doesn't pay to print less than 500 books, and even then, printing 500 instead of 1000 (which is what we did the first time) doesn't yield enough profit for the risk. You have to invest money in the printing, and then wait for the books to sell. Selling 200 won't pay the bill, and that's how many people I estimate would buy the book right away.
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Postby PickaCard » 07/18/14 04:27 PM

Thank you for the insight on the magic book market Richard. It is a sober reminder not to wait too long to buy a book that interests me.
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Postby erdnasephile » 07/20/14 01:29 PM

Leonard Hevia wrote:There's a copy up on eBay with a starting bid for $14.95 plus $5.95 shipping:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-VERNON-TOUC ... 1376372765


Gavel price: $76.07
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Postby Joe Naud » 07/20/14 03:26 PM

Sold for $76
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Postby AJM » 07/20/14 04:38 PM

Which magic books published in the last few years have increased in value?
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Postby Bill Mullins » 07/20/14 04:54 PM

Mind and Magic of David Berglas, Erdnase centennial edition, some of Todd Karr's books, some of Mike Caveney's historical books, Kaufman's reprint of Greater Magic.
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Postby erdnasephile » 07/20/14 11:31 PM

I think Derren Brown's books also fetch above the original MSRP prices.
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Postby Don Hendrix » 07/21/14 04:15 PM

I turned down an offer of $600 for the Mind and Magic of David Berglas, an act which I now regret.
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Postby erdnasephile » 07/21/14 04:28 PM

How about the flip side of the equation? What relatively recent books have lost significant monetary value?

My nomination would be: Bruce Cervon's Castle Notebooks
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Postby Leonard Hevia » 07/21/14 08:34 PM

erdnasephile wrote:
Leonard Hevia wrote:There's a copy up on eBay with a starting bid for $14.95 plus $5.95 shipping:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-VERNON-TOUC ... 1376372765


Gavel price: $76.07


That's not a high price for this book, considering its relative unavailability. I never purchased a magic book for its after market monetary value. I prefer to leave that to used magic book dealers. The price for Silverman's Notes to Houdini!!! continues to rise.
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Postby Rick Ruhl » 07/21/14 09:37 PM

erdnasephile wrote:How about the flip side of the equation? What relatively recent books have lost significant monetary value?

My nomination would be: Bruce Cervon's Castle Notebooks


I sold the first 3 castle notebooks in 2010 for $800.... just picked up the whole set of 5 for $600.

All the good stuff is in volume 1 anyway
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 07/21/14 09:57 PM

Not all the good stuff, but most of it.
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Postby erdnasephile » 07/21/14 09:58 PM

Rick Ruhl wrote:
erdnasephile wrote:How about the flip side of the equation? What relatively recent books have lost significant monetary value?

My nomination would be: Bruce Cervon's Castle Notebooks


I sold the first 3 castle notebooks in 2010 for $800.... just picked up the whole set of 5 for $600.

All the good stuff is in volume 1 anyway


Sounds like you got a really good deal on those!

Personally, I think some of the very best stuff in the notebooks was published by Cervon in his other books.

I've heard rumors that there is a cache of Cervon tapes out there with the real good stuff. I wonder if that's true...
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Postby Rick Ruhl » 07/21/14 10:14 PM

What I would like to see is a set of DVDs based on the notebooks ...
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 07/21/14 10:56 PM

The Castle Notes contain material by both Vernon and Jennings on which Cervon put his initials, thus muddying the credits forever.

When Bruce stopped writing down his notes, he started putting stuff on videotapes instead. Supposedly a book is being written from that material.
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Postby Leonard Hevia » 07/21/14 11:07 PM

Cervon's highly acclaimed Linking Finger Ring routine is also slated for release sometime in the future.

Too bad the Vernon Touch won't be reprinted. There were errors in the photo captions that slipped through the editors. A subsequent reprint could have corrected those.
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