Sumer Reloaded!

Discuss your favorite platform magic and illusions.

Postby Nimrud » 06/19/12 05:57 PM

Dear Brad!

The outsiders see a professional illusion,
and read some comments which are totally different
from what they see in the promo video.
The professional performers know that this is a good illusion
in every point.
You can see good only with your heart.

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Postby mrgoat » 06/19/12 06:12 PM

Nimrud wrote:Dear Q.Kumber and mrgoat!

You see the World's newest and one of the best illusions.
And you say what you say.
Why?

Best, Nimrud


Because it is an appallingly bad illusion, obvious in method, and a dreadful promo video that looks Iike a fish edited it.

And someone not quite all there shilling it.

Have you got any reviews from anyone respected who disagrees with us?

Didn't think so...
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Postby Nimrud » 06/19/12 06:29 PM

Dear mrgoat!

Sorry,
but I feel like I have jumped between sharks,
who see only the meat, and not the man.:)

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Postby mrgoat » 06/19/12 06:32 PM

Nimrud wrote:Dear mrgoat!

Sorry,
but I feel like I have jumped between sharks,
who see only the meat, and not the man.:)

Best, Nimrud


No need to apologize. You are just a guy being paid to shill a bad product.

However we do see the man, and the bad illusion, the shadow, the fact it won't work on a stage because it's black, the fact it is illogical and confusing, the fact it makes no sense, the fact there is no drama and little thought and the really cheesy editing.

Submit it for review and see what others think...

How much are you getting, anyway?
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Postby Nimrud » 06/19/12 07:09 PM

Dear mrgoat!

I did not say to anyone to buy the illusion.
Those who like will buy the Sumer illusion.
I recommended it with respect and honestly
as a new and perfect illusion.
I am sorry that you can see only the "shadow".
These kind of illusions should be appreciated and not attacked.

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Postby Brad Henderson » 06/19/12 07:16 PM

Nimrud wrote:Dear mrgoat!


These kind of illusions should be appreciated and not attacked.

Best, Nimrud




Then the world would be flooded with tasteless magicians performing dull, non deceptive, overly complicated, illusions that can't be descerned from the background against which they are presented.

Wait -

Allow me to revise - then the world would be flooded with EVEN MORE tasteless magicians performing dull, non deceptive, overly complicated, illusions that can't be descerned from the background against which they are presented.

Of course these types of illusions should be attacked

It's magic's only hope.
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Postby Nimrud » 06/19/12 07:32 PM

Dear Brad!

Jesus said : The truth will set you free.
I say : The professionalism will set you free.

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Postby Brad Henderson » 06/19/12 07:49 PM

A professional does not allow the silly notion of 'brotherhood' to prevent him from speaking out when he sees behaviors which do not advance the art.

That is the truth.

I'm free

Sadly you are imprisoned by your inability to discern mystery from puzzles, visible from not visible, and method from effect.

Watching the video reminded me of a biblical passage as well: "Jesus wept."
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Postby mrgoat » 06/20/12 06:09 AM

Nimrud wrote:Dear mrgoat!

I did not say to anyone to buy the illusion.




Uh huh...

Nimrud wrote:Those who like will buy the Sumer illusion.


So, no one apart from you then...

Nimrud wrote:I recommended it with respect and honestly
as a new and perfect illusion.


Well, I, with respect and honesty, am offering my opinion that it is dreadful, obvious, contrived, complicated and bad.

Nimrud wrote:I am sorry that you can see only the "shadow".


I am sorry you think it is good. You must have had a sheltered life and not seen many illusions to form an opinion like that.

Nimrud wrote:These kind of illusions should be appreciated and not attacked.


I think those kinds of illusions should be sawn up and used for firewood.
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Postby Nimrud » 06/20/12 04:46 PM

To Everyone!

An interesting fact about the Sumer illusion.
The Sumer illusion is the only illusion in the World
/in the "illusions with one assistant" category/
which has 4 different phases.
Compression, Cutting, Break, Lifting.

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Postby Jonathan Townsend » 06/20/12 05:05 PM

We have something like a J. D. Powers(r) (tm) (sm) category rating in magic?
Mundus vult decipi
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Postby mrgoat » 06/20/12 06:45 PM

Nimrud wrote:To Everyone!

An interesting fact about the Sumer illusion.
The Sumer illusion is the only illusion in the World
/in the "illusions with one assistant" category/
which has 4 different phases.
Compression, Cutting, Break, Lifting.

Best, Nimrud


It is also the only one you won't be able to see properly on a stage, the only one with an obvious shadow, the only one that is really confusing and the only one that is really obvious.
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Postby Nimrud » 06/21/12 06:23 AM

Dear my friends!

This is a cool community.
I feel good here.
Thank you.

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Postby El Mystico » 06/21/12 10:21 AM

mrgoat wrote:
Nimrud wrote:To Everyone!

An interesting fact about the Sumer illusion.
The Sumer illusion is the only illusion in the World
/in the "illusions with one assistant" category/
which has 4 different phases.
Compression, Cutting, Break, Lifting.

Best, Nimrud


It is also the only one you won't be able to see properly on a stage, the only one with an obvious shadow, the only one that is really confusing and the only one that is really obvious.


It may also be the only one which the Chinese aren't bothering to make a cheap copy of.
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Postby Nimrud » 06/22/12 11:15 AM

To Everyone!

Based on feedback:
many people like the Sumer illusion.
Who knows why, but 3 people don't like it.
This is not a bad ratio.

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Postby Brad Henderson » 06/22/12 11:40 AM

Who likes it? People on the magic cafe? That's like asking a group of virgins how to run a whore house.

The trick is flawed. A compression is a fine effect. Why then slice her? What does it do to enhance the compression effect? Answer: nothing at all. All it does is narrow down the places she could be.

Many magicians cannot differentiate a good trick from a bad trick. Even fewer magicians understand anything about theater or consistency in action.

So, nimrud, why are you here? Why are you telling us others like the trick if not to try to convince someone to buy it?
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Postby Nimrud » 06/22/12 12:11 PM

Dear Brad!

As I see, slowly but
You start to like the Sumer illusion.
And this is good, very good.
Thank You.

Best, Nimrud

Note :
Nimrud in the correct written - Nimrud, not nimrud!
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Postby mrgoat » 06/22/12 12:24 PM

Nimrud wrote:Dear Brad!

As I see, slowly but
You start to realise
I am totally [censored] crazy
And this is good, very good.
Thank You.

Best, Numnuts

Note :
Hatstand in the correct written - Toaster, not wallpaper!


Fixed a couple of typos for you, brother.
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Postby Jonathan Townsend » 06/22/12 12:28 PM

IMHO the illustration on the roller-blind suggests an arm reaching into the side of the box. That and the base design so similar to the sides pretty much leads to imagining the woman stepping sideways into the box and then sliding down into the base with her head and torso in n the upright section that does not move. Again, IMHO it seems to do exactly the opposite of what the Harbin zigzag design accomplished. :(
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Postby Nimrud » 06/22/12 01:48 PM

Dear Jonathan!

Sorry, I was wrong, 4 people don't like the Sumer illusion.

Gentlemen, you are not ethical in the world of Magic.
Read your posts and you will realize why.

Jonathan,
Is the incorrect answer to your post will be that I will tell the explanation of other illusions?

I don't think so.

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Postby mrgoat » 06/22/12 01:59 PM

Nimrud wrote:Dear Jonathan!

Sorry, I was wrong, 4 people don't like the Sumer illusion.


Show me one, just one, aside from you that thinks it is good.
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Postby Nimrud » 06/22/12 02:47 PM

Dear mrgoat!

Not one, everyone think it is good,
maybe Mr. Jim Steinmeyer would like the Sumer illusion too.

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Postby Brad Henderson » 06/22/12 03:22 PM

Nimrud, I apologize for spelling your name incorrectly. It was accidental.

Who likes the illusion? Do you have any names?

Jt said nothing a smart layman wouldn't think. The illusion is flawed if a method presents itself.
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 06/22/12 03:23 PM

Nimrud, don't speak for Jim Steinmeyer! You have no idea what he would think of this illusion so don't put words into his mouth.
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Postby Nimrud » 06/22/12 03:48 PM

Dear Richard!

Sorry, but I said MAYBE.

Dear Brad!

Everyone like who don't says that he don't like.

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Postby Richard Kaufman » 06/22/12 04:14 PM

It doesn't matter if you say "maybe" or not.

"Maybe" President Obama would like it.

See how dumb that is?
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Postby Brad Henderson » 06/22/12 04:31 PM

You're kidding right? According to that logic Mary Louis Parker likes my love making skills, I know this because she's never said she didn't like it!

David Copperfield likes my magic show because he never said he didn't like it.

Heck, you like my review of your friends trick because, and I just checked, you never said 'I didn't like it.'
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Postby Nimrud » 06/22/12 04:32 PM

Dear Richard and the Others!

The sad thing in the Sumer Reloaded topic
that MAYBE you like the Sumer illusion too,
but you cannot say.
And the saddest in this story that you know this too,
I know this too and Everybody know who read this topic.

Sorry, but that is the TRUTH.

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Postby Brad Henderson » 06/22/12 04:47 PM

If you believe that the members here on the genii forum do not regularly and vehemently disagree with each other - and voice it loudly - then you know nothing about this forum.
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Postby El Mystico » 06/22/12 05:17 PM

Nimrud:
Richard, whose forum this is, has made it clear on several occasions that he is not averse to uss discussing how a trick might be done.
So, don't feel we are picking on you; if you have a problem with the ethics, you shouldn't have invited comment here in the first place (and you invited comment by posting on a forum). So you are forced to try to use 'clouding' posts; which are as transparent as your illusion.
The problem you have is that the method is so obvious, everyone immediately jumped to the right method.
MAYBE you shouldn't have posted here.
MAYBE you shouldn't have released this illusion until you understood something about the art of illusion.
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Postby mrgoat » 06/22/12 06:49 PM

Still waiting for just one person who likes it to come forward. Fear I may be waiting a while...
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Postby Nimrud » 06/23/12 07:55 AM

Dear All!

The Sumer is a Saman Zerin illusion!
The arrogance of the attack
verifies that the Sumer is a good illusion.

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Postby Nimrud » 06/23/12 08:39 AM

Dear mrgoat!

Is it ethical that you falsified my original posts?
And after you reply it.
Is this compatible with the Genii's ethical codex?
I hope not.

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Postby Richard Kaufman » 06/23/12 10:26 AM

This thread is like the "Joke of the Day" calendar.
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Postby Bill Mullins » 06/23/12 11:27 AM

I'm still stuck on the Mary Louise Parker/Brad Henderson image.
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Postby Brad Henderson » 06/23/12 12:15 PM

Bill Mullins wrote:I'm still stuck on the Mary Louise Parker/Brad Henderson image.


So am I!!!!!

I think she's dreamy.
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Postby Nimrud » 06/23/12 12:25 PM

Dear Richard!

"This thread is like the "Joke of the Day" calendar."
I think this was a self irony.

Dear mrgoat!

Is this called Magician's Ethic here in the Genii forum?

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Postby mrgoat » 06/23/12 12:34 PM

Nimrud wrote:
Dear mrgoat!

Is this called Magician's Ethic here in the Genii forum?

Best, Nimrud


No, it's called Mock The Bad Illusion Shill.

HTH.
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Postby Nimrud » 06/23/12 12:58 PM

Dear Gentlemen!

Now are you provoking me?
As I see,
you can not bear to see a brilliant new illusion.

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Postby Brad Henderson » 06/23/12 01:05 PM

Nimrud, do you consider it ethical to put onto the market an effect which fails to advance the art while touting it is a a quality performance piece?
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