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Postby ftlum » 03/05/12 07:10 AM

Hi Guys!

Could someone make the forum have a mobile format so we can read it easier on our phones? Alternatively, there's an app called Tapatalk which could do the trick if you're willing to make some adjustments. I see Hermetic Press is already compatible with that app.

On a sepatate note, I'd really like to see the Genii app get a Fullscreen mode. I.E., be able to temporarily get rid of the bottom navigation bar so more of the text is visible.


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Postby Ian Kendall » 03/05/12 08:45 AM

Isn't Tapatalk only for phpBB boards?
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Postby mrgoat » 03/05/12 10:20 AM

Ian Kendall wrote:Isn't Tapatalk only for phpBB boards?


I believe so yes, but there is talk of them (UBB) making v8 work with tapatalk.
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Postby Chris Aguilar » 03/05/12 06:51 PM

I use tapatalk on my phpBB based form and it works great.

I also just installed a "mobile only" theme so that people can have an optimized experience without paying the few bucks for the tapatalk app.

Perhaps they have also have some "mobile enhanced" themes for UBB.
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 03/05/12 08:04 PM

Frank, we're expecting an upgrade to our iPad and iPhone apps sometime later this year.
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Postby Joe Pecore » 03/05/12 08:49 PM

I installed a mobile skin on MagicPedia if anyone would like to test it for me. It should automatically detect you are on a mobile device when you browse to it: http://geniimagazine.com/magicpedia/Main_Page
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Postby Bob Gerdes » 03/05/12 09:58 PM

Hi Joe,
I tried it on my android phone and it does go to a mobile version.

It looks pretty good, but some things don't display properly. For example, the "overview", "browse", "getting started", etc, tabs run off the right side of the screen.
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Postby Joe Pecore » 03/05/12 10:12 PM

Thanks Bob. I shortened it up a bit.
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 03/05/12 10:20 PM

On an iPhone, I see this message:

"MagicPedia/main page
There is currently no text on this page. You can search for this page title in other pages ...."
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 03/05/12 10:23 PM

I found it by using some other link that I found on google. Cool Joe! Now all we have to is clean up all the hacked crap.
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Postby mrgoat » 03/06/12 05:29 AM

Richard Kaufman wrote:I found it by using some other link that I found on google. Cool Joe! Now all we have to is clean up all the hacked crap.


Adding a captcha to the reg process will remove a lot of the spam bots, also making a new user have admin authorise first 10 posts should stop the rest of it.
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 03/06/12 12:19 PM

The hack is not in the registration system.
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Postby mrgoat » 03/06/12 12:47 PM

Richard Kaufman wrote:The hack is not in the registration system.


Sorry, I assumed spam bots were registering. My bad.
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Postby Ray Haddad » 04/29/12 10:54 AM

Ian Kendall wrote:Isn't Tapatalk only for phpBB boards?

TapaTalk works on SMF boards, too.
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Postby Ray Haddad » 04/29/12 01:56 PM

Joe Pecore wrote:I installed a mobile skin on MagicPedia if anyone would like to test it for me. It should automatically detect you are on a mobile device when you browse to it: http://geniimagazine.com/magicpedia/Main_Page

Here's a QR code image to speed up loading your browser (for first time visitors):
http://www.interactive-studios.net/barc ... bc52d940c4
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Postby Joe Pecore » 04/29/12 07:15 PM

Ray Haddad wrote:
Here's a QR code image to speed up loading your browser (for first time visitors):
http://www.interactive-studios.net/barc ... bc52d940c4


That didn't work (I think the cache expired). I created this though: Image

Let me know if it works.
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Postby Ray Haddad » 04/29/12 07:20 PM

Perfect. I was going to create a png graphic but chose the link instead. I had no idea it would expire. Sorry.
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Postby Joe Pecore » 04/29/12 09:36 PM

Thanks for QR code idea!
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Postby pixsmith » 04/29/12 10:35 PM

fwiw, I use opera mini and the forum works and looks great just as is. I know the Android app is small and speedy, can't speak for other platforms though.
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Postby Ray Haddad » 05/04/12 07:31 AM

Thanks again, Joe. I's still love to see an Android app that allows me to download and read a full issue off-line. Contrary to the Apple aficionados, the Android has overtaken the iPhone and iPad in terms of application numbers. Users, too.

Apps are not hard to develop. All anyone needs is a copy of the Genii API from whoever designed the current format and rules for getting the issues into the iPad or iPhone for off line reading.
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Postby Joe Pecore » 05/04/12 08:04 AM

Ray Haddad wrote:All anyone needs is a copy of the Genii API from whoever designed the current format and rules for getting the issues into the iPad or iPhone for off line reading.

I don't remember it being a technical issue, but rather an economic issue. I'm sure Genii has to pay to get this done each month. I don't believe enough Android users responded when Genii asked about an Android app to justify the cost.
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Postby Andrew Pinard » 05/04/12 08:34 AM

I would support an Android App... With help, I recently implemented mobile optimization for four of my websites (performance, shell game, troublewit and a municipal site). I was struck by how relatively easy it was to establish in a short timeframe. I still have some customization to do (some links refer to non-optimized HTML pages), but for the most part I am impressed by the overlays that are available...
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Postby mrgoat » 05/04/12 08:54 AM

Ray Haddad wrote: Contrary to the Apple aficionados, the Android has overtaken the iPhone and iPad in terms of application numbers. Users, too.


Of course it has. There are 203920 forked and incompatible versions of Android and one version of the iOS.

I don't see any iOS users here arguing any differently.

You and your straw men Haddad! Just like the good old days when you pretended you owned alt.magic.

Very funny you've not changed a jot!

Ray Haddad wrote:Apps are not hard to develop.


Who said they are? Straw men again!

Ray Haddad wrote:All anyone needs is a copy of the Genii API


What makes you think there is an API?

Look Haddad, the owner of the magazine has said he's not doing a version for your phone.

Deal with it.

Now, run along back to alt.magic, they must be missing you and your tales of inventing the bra trick.

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Postby Richard Kaufman » 05/04/12 10:30 AM

While I've had a few more requests for an Android app, still not many. However, the problem is that unlike iOS, where one app will work on any iPhone or iPad using it, Android has many versions and the available app for us only supports one version. Not the latest version, either.
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Postby DrDanny » 05/04/12 10:35 AM

+1 to the request count. Android rulez!
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Postby Andrew Pinard » 05/04/12 11:13 AM

Thanks for the serious consideration Richard, maybe in the future.

BTW: Congratulation on being honored next week at The Collector's Weekend. Unfortunately I won't be able to attend due to engagements, but you thoroughly deserve the honors... Hope to see you in November!

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Postby Richard Kaufman » 05/04/12 11:26 AM

What are the dates in November? I haven't see the convention mentioned anywhere.
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Postby Andrew Pinard » 05/04/12 11:48 AM

November 8-10th. Invitations will be going out in the next week or so...
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Postby Jeff Pierce Magic » 05/08/12 09:58 AM

+1 to the request count.
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Postby CraigOusterling » 05/08/12 12:41 PM

mrgoat wrote:...

Of course it has. There are 203920 forked and incompatible versions of Android and one version of the iOS.

...


THAT is funny.

I'll +1 the android.
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Postby mrgoat » 05/08/12 12:42 PM

CraigOusterling wrote:
mrgoat wrote:...

Of course it has. There are 203920 forked and incompatible versions of Android and one version of the iOS.

...


THAT is funny.

I'll +1 the android.


Could you point out the forked versions of iOS?
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Postby CraigOusterling » 05/08/12 02:04 PM

mrgoat, I love your posts and thought you were trying to be funny with that statement.

To clarify myself I didn't say there were forked versions of iOS.

but...

The current version is 5.1.1 build 9B206. It is the fourth 'major' version of version 5. I inferred the number 5 means 4 others came before. Making the bold statement "one version of the iOS" uhm... ironic? I mentally added the 5 at the end of the sentence and it gave me a chuckle.

Also with one eyebrow raised: The thought of forked versions is bad? I assumed you meant 'bad' since it was next to the word incompatible (negative connotation). Please correct me if I thought wrong.
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Postby mrgoat » 05/08/12 02:55 PM

CraigOusterling wrote:To clarify myself I didn't say there were forked versions of iOS.


I didn't say you did. But your laughter at the idea of it suggested you thought the concept was amusing?

CraigOusterling wrote:The current version is 5.1.1 build 9B206. It is the fourth 'major' version of version 5.


Ah, you are confusing versions with forks.

Read up here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_(software_development)

CraigOusterling wrote: I inferred the number 5 means 4 others came before. Making the bold statement "one version of the iOS" uhm... ironic?


Only in the Alanis Morrisette version of the word.

The point is, there are a gajamillion versions of Android, and a gajamillion different devices, screen resolutions, processors, ram, etc.

So whilst creating an app for an iOS device means you need to make one version, creating an app for Android means you have to make many, or dumb it down for the LCD.

CraigOusterling wrote:Also with one eyebrow raised: The thought of forked versions is bad?


It is if you are a developer or consumer.

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Postby Ian Kendall » 05/08/12 04:42 PM

In the current tablet market, there are only really four or five permutations of hardware; there are a couple of chipsets, but the screens are all much of a muchness (in the decent bracket, anyway) and variable RAM amounts don't really impact an app, only the performance for multi tasking.

Even the screen resolution is not that much of a problem; in much the same way that the iPad scales up iPhone apps, Android can scale up apps to fit its screen.

Tablets (for that is the subject here), at the non [censored] end of the spectrum, all run Honeycomb, which is currently at 3.2 - one or two revisions less than iOS5...so the bottom line is that if you develop the app for Honeycomb, the vast majority of Android tablets would be able to run it.
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Postby CraigOusterling » 05/08/12 06:02 PM

mrgoat wrote:So whilst creating an app for an iOS device means you need to make one version....

HTH


Maybe you should ask a developer how many versions they need to create (for real I mean... no... really... find a developer and ask them)

Wow... now it's your ignorance that makes me chuckle.

I'm not trying to combat with you sir. I actually enjoyed what you *used* to write.

bummer.

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Postby mrgoat » 05/08/12 06:46 PM

Ian Kendall wrote:In the current tablet market, there are only really four or five permutations of hardware; there are a couple of chipsets, but the screens are all much of a muchness (in the decent bracket, anyway)


Really? I thought there were a wide variety of screen resolutions and screen sizes which caused developers problems? WIkipedia seems to think so...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison ... id_devices

Looks like hundreds of different screen sizes and resolutions to me?

Ian Kendall wrote:Even the screen resolution is not that much of a problem; in much the same way that the iPad scales up iPhone apps, Android can scale up apps to fit its screen.


An iPhone app scaled to the iPad looks horrible though?

Ian Kendall wrote:Tablets (for that is the subject here)


Can you not use Andoid apps on phones then?

Ian Kendall wrote:, at the non [censored] end of the spectrum, all run Honeycomb, which is currently at 3.2 - one or two revisions less than iOS5...so the bottom line is that if you develop the app for Honeycomb, the vast majority of Android tablets would be able to run it.


not according to wikipedia, honeycomb only has 3.3% of the usage share. Maybe they are wrong?


Distribution API level
4.0.x Ice Cream Sandwich 14-15 4.9%
3.x.x Honeycomb 11-13 3.3%
2.3.x Gingerbread 9-10 64.4%
2.2 Froyo 8 20.9%
2.0, 2.1 Eclair 7 5.5%
1.6 Donut 4 0.7%
1.5 Cupcake 3 0.3%

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Postby mrgoat » 05/08/12 06:47 PM

CraigOusterling wrote:
ignored.


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Postby Ian Kendall » 05/09/12 02:59 AM

Since we are talking about reading Genii on a device, I think suggesting using a phone is a tad daft. That leaves the tablets. And the majority of tablets run Honeycomb.

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Postby mrgoat » 05/09/12 04:57 AM

Ian Kendall wrote:Since we are talking about reading Genii on a device, I think suggesting using a phone is a tad daft.

That leaves the tablets. And the majority of tablets run Honeycomb.

Keep up, fanboi :D


Oh right, well yes, if you rule out all devices aside from tablets, you're right.

But as the genii app is both iPhone and iPad, I assumed we were talking about android devices.

Maybe people can't read things on Android phones for some odd reason making your point valid?

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Postby Ian Kendall » 05/09/12 06:08 AM

You can read a magazine on a phone? My old age old eyes cannot handle that. And I bet you don't, either... ;)
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