This week on Cogitations-- The Second Deal

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This week on Cogitations-- The Second Deal

Postby Guest » February 25th, 2005, 3:16 pm

This weekend, Cogitations will be updated with a
clip of one of the best Second Deals I've ever seen,
by someone I've known for over 15 years-- Andru Luvisi.

I've seen Ortiz, Maze, Plants, and many other
experts deal seconds and bottoms and in my opinion
Andru can hold his own with all of those experts.

Andru's been one of those reclusive guys who tends not
to publish any of his own ideas or work, but I knew him
when he was 14 years of age and he could deal acceptable
seconds and bottoms THEN!

The article will include clips of Andru dealing seconds
(the BEST face-up seconds I've ever seen in my life!)
and a written piece in which he will explain what he
considers to be the most important aspects of the Second
Deal.

Steven Youell

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Re: This week on Cogitations-- The Second Deal

Postby Guest » February 26th, 2005, 11:38 am

How long does it normally take to get your logon information from when you send the payment in?

Thanks
Phil

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Re: This week on Cogitations-- The Second Deal

Postby Guest » February 26th, 2005, 11:49 pm

OK Guys, it's posted. Let me know what you think!

Phil-- you should have yours by now!

Steven Youell

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Re: This week on Cogitations-- The Second Deal

Postby Bill Palmer » February 27th, 2005, 1:07 am

Anybody ever seen Richard Turner deal? Pretty amazing. Even moreso because he is nearly totally blind.
Bill Palmer, MIMC

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Re: This week on Cogitations-- The Second Deal

Postby Guest » February 27th, 2005, 2:13 am

Originally posted by Steven Youell:
OK Guys, it's posted. Let me know what you think!

Phil-- you should have yours by now!

Steven Youell
MANY thanks for posting that. A thing of beauty.

Mr Luvisi I salute you.

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Re: This week on Cogitations-- The Second Deal

Postby Guest » February 27th, 2005, 12:56 pm

Richard Turner's second deal is as visually deceptive as it gets IMHO.

But everybody has an opinion ....some have more than others. But you know what they say about opinions!

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Re: This week on Cogitations-- The Second Deal

Postby Matthew Field » February 28th, 2005, 2:35 am

Yow! The Luvisi Second Deal is a thing of beauty, and I've seem some great ones.

Matt Field

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Re: This week on Cogitations-- The Second Deal

Postby Guest » February 28th, 2005, 4:19 am

Originally posted by Steven Youell:

Phil-- you should have yours by now!

Steven Youell
Hi Steven,

I have not yet received any email with my log on information.

Thanks
Phil

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Re: This week on Cogitations-- The Second Deal

Postby Guest » February 28th, 2005, 8:55 am

Originally posted by G. Plants:
Richard Turner's second deal is as visually deceptive as it gets IMHO.

But everybody has an opinion ....some have more than others. But you know what they say about opinions!
That is true, Mr. Plants-- but if you're going to
say one is better than the other-- shouldn't you
actually SEE both of them?

;)

Steven Youell

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Re: This week on Cogitations-- The Second Deal

Postby Paul Hayward » February 28th, 2005, 2:05 pm

I agree that Richard Turners second deal is amazing but it is not a strike second. Mr Luvisi's strike second is incredible. Both styles of dealing seconds have there place in card magic and both need to be seen to be appeciated.

Regards,

Paul H

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Re: This week on Cogitations-- The Second Deal

Postby mago » February 28th, 2005, 2:56 pm

This reminds me of a letter that I received from Eddie Marlo in response to one that I had written to him.

I mentioned to him years ago, that he should see the new second deal that I came up with.

His reply was "I would love to not be able to see it".

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Best to you all.

Tom Wolf

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Re: This week on Cogitations-- The Second Deal

Postby Guest » March 1st, 2005, 12:41 pm

Very nice work Andru - I'm proud to say I know you...

Best, PSC

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Re: This week on Cogitations-- The Second Deal

Postby Chris Aguilar » March 30th, 2005, 7:19 pm

For those of you who enjoyed Mr. Luvisi's excellent work on the second deal, another article has been posted. This one deals with the bottom deal and reducing "finger flash", a well known "tell".

I thought his second deal looked very nice, but the bottom deal seen here (in my opinion) looks even better.

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Re: This week on Cogitations-- The Second Deal

Postby John Carey » March 31st, 2005, 2:10 am

Does anyone out there use the elliot bottom deal from vernons ultimate card secrets?
I think for magical applications this is an excellent strike bottom deal that is not too difficult to aquire.

My late freind kevin reay showed me this deal and like all of his work was most deceptive.

Regards
John

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Re: This week on Cogitations-- The Second Deal

Postby Guest » March 31st, 2005, 6:59 am

Okay....I broke down and subscribed....now I'm just waiting to get my log-in info....is it a wait game, and how long, or am I'm required to do something other than paypal?
Patiently anxious, Charlie

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Re: This week on Cogitations-- The Second Deal

Postby Bill Wheeler » March 31st, 2005, 1:05 pm

Originally posted by Charlie Justice:
is it a wait game, and how long, or am I'm required to do something other than paypal?
Patiently anxious, Charlie
I probably had to wait 24 hours, and then was contacted with an email giving me my login name and password.

Hope this helps

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Re: This week on Cogitations-- The Second Deal

Postby Pete Biro » March 31st, 2005, 3:36 pm

I have an old retired crossroader friend living in Las Vegas. I don't know if his dueces are better than the aforementioned folks, but what he DOES with it is what is amazing.

Imagine "sorts" from decks with a different (R/S) feel and the ability to deal in a casino situation. I've seen him run up a cooler and deal crooked at places like the Sahara!

Tomsoni, Forti and a few others know him well too.
Stay tooned.

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Re: This week on Cogitations-- The Second Deal

Postby Guest » April 1st, 2005, 7:01 am

Thanks Bill....looking forward to the rewards.

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Re: This week on Cogitations-- The Second Deal

Postby Paul Hayward » April 2nd, 2005, 10:50 pm

Andru's bottom deal on Cogitations is marvellous in my opinion. His bottoms are almost identical to his tops. This has to be one of the most deceptive bottom deals I have ever seen. I would liked to have seen his technique applied to dealing out bottoms to other players rather than just dealt onto a pile, but you can't have everything. Highly recommended.

Regards,

Paul H


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