Is this dangerous ?

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Is this dangerous ?

Postby Gary Kosnitzky » November 2nd, 2011, 7:24 pm

How would you like to be brought onstage as a volunteer only to be tortured by an actually strong electric shock?
Well for $1390 you can have this crowd pleaser.

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Re: Is this dangerous ?

Postby Jonathan Townsend » November 2nd, 2011, 7:40 pm

Does it have other settings for private use?
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Re: Is this dangerous ?

Postby Richard Kaufman » November 2nd, 2011, 7:46 pm

This isn't new. Someone else was selling it several years ago and I recall watching Criss Angel perform this when he was filming his second TV special, "Supernatural," years ago.

He was filming the segment by the swimming pool at the Universal resort in Orlando and there was some concern about all the water on the ground, and if the people were wet having just come out of the pool, and so on. Some people really jumped when touching his finger.
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Re: Is this dangerous ?

Postby erdnasephile » November 2nd, 2011, 8:00 pm

Physically hurting spectators for entertainment purposes is stupid. (Remember Sue Anne Webster's plight at FISM?)

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Re: Is this dangerous ?

Postby Jonathan Townsend » November 2nd, 2011, 9:03 pm

erdnasephile wrote:Physically hurting spectators for entertainment purposes is stupid. ...


? you're forgetting Rome, reality TV, American Idol?

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Re: Is this dangerous ?

Postby SteveP » November 3rd, 2011, 6:33 am

There's also Electric Touch, by Mesika which is a system you wear. http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/1366

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Re: Is this dangerous ?

Postby Dale Shrimpton » November 3rd, 2011, 8:52 am

To me, this is not only unethical, but It's very Lazy magic. If you can't be bothered to learn how to do the electric chairs properly, you dont really have any business dealing with spectators.

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Re: Is this dangerous ?

Postby Duncan William » December 30th, 2011, 4:24 pm

I agree with Dale this could be interpreted as a bit lazy. I know electric chairs are dear - but if they are out of your price range try something else!
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Postby mrgoat » December 30th, 2011, 5:34 pm

Duncan William wrote:I agree with Dale this could be interpreted as a bit lazy. I know electric chairs are dear - but if they are out of your price range try something else!


I think Dale's point was that the electric chair routine just uses ordinary chairs and instant stooging. Using electricity to accomplish what a competent magician accomplishes with skill is the lazy part.

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Re: Is this dangerous ?

Postby Simone M » January 5th, 2012, 1:27 pm

I wonder what would happen if you accidentally pick a spectator who has some medical electric device inside his body like a pacemaker or something

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Re: Is this dangerous ?

Postby TonyB » January 15th, 2012, 2:42 pm

I have a great routine where two volunteers wear vests and hold special guns. They draw on each other, like cowboys, and the loser gets a mild shock through the vest. I have predicted the result in advance.

However, I have never performed this routine, because I realised right away that I cannot just go around giving electric shocks to the volunteers, however funny it would be to a college crowd to have them dress as cowboys and shoot it out.

The electric chair routine can be done without electric shocks. If you feel you need the electric version, I feel you should investigate a new career. It is lazy, disrespectful of your audience, and can be accomplished in an ethical way.

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Re: Is this dangerous ?

Postby Jonathan Pendragon » February 23rd, 2012, 5:23 am

Maybe someone could invent an effect where the audience salivates on cue?

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Re: Is this dangerous ?

Postby Jonathan Townsend » February 23rd, 2012, 8:56 am

Jonathan Pendragon wrote:Maybe someone could invent an effect where the audience salivates on cue?


There are several such. Some get the audience to bark, froth at the mouth, dance... just not usually discussed on these threads.

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Re: Is this dangerous ?

Postby Jonathan Pendragon » February 23rd, 2012, 9:18 am

Where? At the Pavlov school of magic.

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Postby Jonathan Townsend » February 23rd, 2012, 9:20 am

No, not in the magic shop... well sort of if you treat magicians as the audience.

Let's hear it for Pavlov's assistant who put that bell on the cart - unless they were also the one who did the work to make sure the dogs were not so noisy.

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