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Postby 52nd » 06/18/11 12:54 PM

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Postby Jim Riser » 06/18/11 01:32 PM

It is interesting to see the evolution of card trimmers as they were refined over the years. Features that individual trimmers have or lack can help with dating them. This is an interesting example that I had not seen before.
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Postby 52nd » 06/18/11 01:38 PM

Jim,

Thank you for your comment. If you wouldn't mind, please elaborate.(?)

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Postby Jim Riser » 06/18/11 08:11 PM

Dave;
Go here for an illustration of what I posted above:

http://jamesriser.com/Magic/CardTrimmer ... rison.html

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Postby 52nd » 06/19/11 06:46 AM

Jim,

Thank you for the link. very interesting! I might have a few more photos you could add to the page if you wish to.

My card trimmer seems to be like the Mason trimmer in your link. So I am curious to know how the card trimmer is an interesting example that you haven't seen before.(?)

thank you for taking the time.


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Postby Jim Riser » 06/19/11 01:01 PM

Dave;
Yours appears to be a copy of a Mason trimmer. The square corner on the slot is interesting as most commercial builders would have done it differently.

If there is enough interest in this, I'll add more pics. I have one of a later model Mason, Will& Fink, etc.

I do not want to put time into it unless people care.
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Postby Jim Martin » 06/19/11 02:00 PM

Thanks for the post and pics, Jim and Dave.

Put me down as a 'yes' for more information. (Jim - did you ever manufacture a card trimmer/corner rounder, or just renovate earlier pieces?)
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Postby 52nd » 06/19/11 07:24 PM

Riser,

Could it be the other way around as well? I mean, that Mason copied from this design? You probably know this better than most.

I assure you that people will care about this. This is rather rare information you are sharing, so you can put me down as a 'yes' as well.
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Postby Jim Riser » 06/19/11 07:42 PM

Dave;
I have updated and added to the trimmer comparison web page but can not upload everything until this evening.

We still need years of operation and locations for the makers of such tools. Does anyone know this stuff?

Look for update later today.

Jim, I never made card trimmers but have worked on several for friends. These mostly needed missing parts made.
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Postby Jim Martin » 06/19/11 07:53 PM

Thanks Jim.

The amount of practical knowledge you have about these things, which I find of tremendous value, is staggering. Thanks for sharing it here.
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Postby Jim Riser » 06/19/11 10:49 PM

My internet service is down right now - possibly due to all of the forest fires. This is being posted from my phone. If internet comes back on tonight, I'll ftp it to my web site.
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Postby Jim Riser » 06/20/11 12:51 AM

Dave and Jim (the only two people who seem interested in this info);

I finally got back onto the internet and have updated things. It's all at the same link:

http://jamesriser.com/Magic/CardTrimmer ... rison.html

Any additions, corrections, or suggestions?
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Postby Pete Biro » 06/20/11 02:24 AM

WOW... what a collection. Are these all yours Jim?
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Postby Jim Riser » 06/20/11 03:29 AM

Hey Pete;
From the link above:

The trimmer images shown here are from various auctions. This is a very limited selection of my collection of trimmer images sold over the years but enough to illustrate the possibilities of using various features to roughly date such items.

I only own the set which allows all of the precise adjustments. It's the one with the adjustable scissors tip. The corner rounder I own is the one with the beveled brass guides.

Most of what I seem to collect resembles 2000+ pound machinery and tooling for it! I only wanted one nice trimmer set for modifying cards for special effects. But I do like to see even tiny variations in the designs made over the years.

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Postby Dan Smith » 06/20/11 06:55 AM

Jim,

Thanks so much for sharing your insights. Fascinating. Much appreciated.

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Postby 52nd » 06/20/11 03:12 PM

Jim,

Thank you! This is just great ! The Will & Finck ones are just beautiful!

Everyone,
Should anyone be interested, I can let the card trimmer alone go for $1300 postpaid to anywhere in the world - should you be interested, please contact me by e-mail. (52gaffed@gmail.com)

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Postby Jim Riser » 06/21/11 11:22 AM

Updated again at:

http://jamesriser.com/Magic/CardTrimmer ... rison.html

Enjoy. Feel free to contribute.
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Postby Jim Martin » 06/21/11 12:10 PM

Fantastic - thanks for the great images and information.
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Postby Jim Riser » 06/24/11 12:29 AM

Do any of you have info on the relationship between the Graham and Mason companies? It is my understanding that Graham supplied unstamped items to Mason. Mason would later stamp these items with the Mason stamp. Can anyone verify/document this rumor?
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Postby Jim Riser » 06/24/11 03:45 PM

For those few watching this web page, I have added to it again.

http://jamesriser.com/Magic/CardTrimmer ... rison.html

Enjoy.
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Postby 52nd » 06/24/11 05:00 PM

Jim,

Thank you for all the info and the effort you put into it.

To my knowledge, Graham supplied unmarked trimmers to both Mason and K.C. Card Co. ... Although design have later been copied, there is nothing like seeing and using the products of Graham (In my opinion)! The Will & Finck will always be in a catagory for itself in my book though...

I am curious to know if anyone has heard about the new trimmer by Porper..? it is supposed to be something entirely new, and I would like to get my hands on one of them... Although I suppose they will cost in the range of 4,500-5,000 USD, so I need some info before purchasing.... I was just curious if anyone knew anything about this?

Thanks.

and take care.


a little side note: The trimmer is still for sale for 1,300 postpaid. contact me at 52gaffed@gmail.com if interested.


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Postby Brad Henderson » 06/24/11 06:20 PM

Jim, Super great. Thanks.

I have an evan's trimmer that has the rounder built into the trimmer unit. Will cut bridge, poker and jumbo cards. On tour right now, but happy to send pics for your collection if you feel it worthy.
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Postby Jim Riser » 06/24/11 06:38 PM

Brad;
Yes, I'd like to add it to the web page. Thanks.
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Postby Jim Riser » 06/29/11 04:14 AM

For those still following this thread....

I have just added images of an interesting brass topped wooden base trimmer to the collection.

As always ...

http://jamesriser.com/Magic/CardTrimmer ... rison.html

Enjoy.
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