Originally posted by Richard Kaufman:
Have any of you seen a set of the Joe Porper cups? The only two three I've seen are the sets made for Vernon, Charlie Miller, and Larry Jennings. Really beautiful cups.
Yes, Richard. I have a set of Joe Porper cups in machined copper. They are indeed very nice, but I want to echo Pete Biro's note that the design is an exact copy of the cups that Harry Stanley had made for Dai Vernon's first English tour. The difference is that the Stanley cups were spun, whereas Porper's were beautifully machined with a black interior. The Porpers are also quite a bit heavier. A single Porper cup in copper weighs almost 10 ounces; a single Stanley copper cup weighs less than four. I didn't know that Stanley made these sets in aluminum as well, but I'd imagine that Pete's set in this metal is even lighter. By the way, in addition to his copper and his steel sets, Joe Porper also crafted his cups in brass. For those interested in seeing images of these cups, pictures of my two sets are -- as Jim Riser notes -- on his historic cups website (click on the link to three beaded cups). There is a photo of the Harry Stanley version in Michael Ammar's book on the cups and balls. You can also see the Stanley/Porper design on the cover of the four Vernon Chronicles books. As for size, they are a just a bit larger than the regular Paul Fox/Danny Dew sets. In fact, you can just cover a PF cup with a Porper cup. As for price, I recall two sets of Porpers were being sold at the 1999 LA Conference on Magic History. The asking price was $750 each. One set sold for cash; the other was traded for an item of like value.
[ February 08, 2002: Message edited by: Michael Edwards ]