At least many of quantum physics postulates and results can and have been verified by experiments. So far we know no simpler way of expressing nature at that scale. You must accept that nature is not simple.Originally posted by Matthew Field:
I believe in Occam's Razor, but old Occam would have a fit if he could see what atomic physics looks like today.
I like Douglas Adams's quote on this subject, from "The Restaurant at the End of the Universe":Originally posted by Chris Wasshuber:
You must accept that nature is not simple.
That said, I'm with Matt...just because we don't know a simpler way to explain the universe, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened.
I always thought of a skeptic (small "s") as a person who took everything with a grain of salt; as a Missourian would say, "Show me". My spiritual world view allows such an attitude. Yes, have faith, but allow life to validate it. And if life doesn't do so, question your beliefs. (It just so happens that my life does validate my beliefs, and therefore I am richer for that).Originally posted by Matthew Field:
Jamy is an actual member of the group of self-appointed skeptics who enjoy puncturing some of the more ludicrous folk out there -- the John Edward worshippers, for example. Edward and the Skeptics are both, ultimately, harmless.
Very insightful. One might (humbly) add that scientists are notoriously susceptible to self-deception. Science often (historically and continually) kicks and screams against unassailable evidence. In the twenty-first century, "least well-tethered beliefs" may equally be materialistic ones as not.Originally posted by Ralph Bonheim:
Magicians, as fine artists of deception, have special knowledge and special responsibility; we know how pervasive and manipulable is the human capacity for self-delusion. [...] By helping people recognize their capacity for self-delusion, and perhaps helping them think twice about their least well-tethered beliefs, we do not interfere with spirituality. We help clear a path to it.
Then I've got a long way to go.Originally posted by Lisa Cousins:
the only difference between a good man and God is duration.
True enough. Kurt Gdel dealt the fatal blow to that line of thinking back in 1931 when he published his Incompleteness Theorems....if by "scientific materialism" you mean faith that science will ultimately solve all mysteries, that indeed is a belief system, though not one prescribed by science itself.
The special 25th anniversary issue of Hofstadter's Gdel, Escher, Bach just came out. The most absorbing book I've ever failed to finish.Originally posted by Jim Morton:
True enough. Kurt Gdel dealt the fatal blow to that line of thinking back in 1931 when he published his Incompleteness Theorems.
Thanks, John. Haven't read it; will check it out. (I wonder whether the title, a play on the now largely irrelevant "The End of History," was the author's or publisher's idea.)Originally posted by Jon Racherbaumer:
As we drift farther afield (happily, I might add), let's not forget the controversial, fuse-igniting book titled THE END OF SCIENCE. That one made me forget about my deck for three weeks.
An interest in art is a perfect example of a field where mystical studies have come in handy for me. In the summer of 1995, I decided to make a study of medieval Christian mysticism. I began by reading the New Testament, so that I would understand the references, then read an excellent book called "Enduring Grace" which gave overviews of seven mystics. From there I looked deeper into the ones that most appealed to me, which in turn led to more, and the summer went by in pleasant reveries.Originally posted by Matthew Field:
By the way, aside from magic, music and art...
Ditto -- I've picked it up several times and couldn't get past the first few chapters. Now I'm taking a class where I'm going to have to read it, so we'll see how it goes this time around.Originally posted by Lisa Cousins:
I felt that way about "A Brief History of Time." Just not brief enough.
Then it has become abundantly clear to me that whatever flaws your husband may bear have been thusly mitigated.Originally posted by Lisa Cousins:
...winning the love of a cool girl mitigates much else.