Payment for convention workshop almost a year overdue

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Postby GregMcMahan » 01/10/11 06:39 PM

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I've been very very patient and remained pleasant for quite some time, but I'm now losing my patience. I did a 4 hour workshop at a convention in January of 2010. I have yet to be paid. I have contacted the organizer many times, by email and phone. Still no payment. Any ideas on how to proceed? Similar experiences?
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Postby Terry » 01/10/11 06:55 PM

Try Attorney General's office in the state where the convention was held.
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Postby GregMcMahan » 01/10/11 07:08 PM

That is a final resort option I am willing to use, but I'd like to exhaust all other options first.
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 01/10/11 08:37 PM

I would imagine that simply explaining to them that you are going to publicize this on the internet would be enough motivation for them to pay you. Otherwise they're going to have a hard time hiring performers for their convention in the future.
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Postby Gordon Meyer » 01/11/11 01:17 PM

The attorney general isn't going to help you. It's a bad debt/breach of contract situation, not a criminal matter that they'd be interested in. You can always file in small claims court, as a last resort.
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Postby Bill Mullins » 01/11/11 03:46 PM

Gordon Meyer wrote:The attorney general isn't going to help you. It's a bad debt/breach of contract situation, not a criminal matter that they'd be interested in. You can always file in small claims court, as a last resort.


Don't assume that this is wholly a civil matter without criminal issues. Were any of the negotiations over the phone? It may be wire fraud. Were any of the negotiations through the U.S. mails? The postal inspector may be able to help you.

Let the appropriate attorney general tell you if he can help at worst, you've written a letter which doesnt yield results and you are only out a stamp. (CC a copy of the letter to the person who stiffed you it may be sufficient to put the fear of God in them).
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Postby NCMarsh » 01/11/11 05:07 PM

Non/late payment issues suck. I do think, though, that Greg is right to tread lightly. A performer who sues his clients can find himself without clients...It's a good reason to try -- and of course it isn't possible with every client -- to make sure a check is in your hand before, at the very latest, leaving the gig.

I don't know about the world of magic convention bookers, I do know that the worlds in which I work are very small ones and word can travel fast. People don't know both sides of the story, and they don't want the risk of bringing in someone who may take them to court...so, yes, it is in the back pocket for extreme instances...but -- and it sounds like this is where Greg is -- I'd keep it way in the back pocket
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Postby Jolly Roger » 01/12/11 01:03 PM

Hello Greg............

I think we might be talking about the same convention where I lectured. Myself, and others, had similar problems. I eventually got paid I believe it was in April or May. If you want to name names as you started this thread, I will either agree or disagree with you, as I need to make sure we are on the same page. There is another similar convention this year coming up soon, and I think all the lecturers should be warned, don't you? JR
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Postby Bob Farmer » 01/12/11 08:18 PM

Never go on unless you have the cash in your had beforehand. It's amazing how the money will suddenly be found.
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Postby GregMcMahan » 01/13/11 03:21 PM

Good news!! The convention organizer is making good on the debt, and everybody's happy... YAY!! I knew he was a good guy, and would settle it. It just took longer than I expected.

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