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Coming in the February "Magicana" ...

Postby Richard Kaufman » December 11th, 2010, 10:26 pm

... is a sleight that David Acer declares will make "... move monkeys throw their feces in joy."
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Re: Coming in the February "Magicana" ...

Postby Michael Close » December 12th, 2010, 10:28 am

Thanks for the heads-up. I'll be stockpiling until then.

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Re: Coming in the February "Magicana" ...

Postby Richard Kaufman » December 12th, 2010, 10:56 am

Do you wear gloves?
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Re: Coming in the February "Magicana" ...

Postby Jonathan Townsend » December 13th, 2010, 10:41 am

Apropos of nothing - it does suggest the use of conjuring by TSA employees who produce things from places best touched (if at all) wearing gloves. Imagine them using "psychic surgery" to reach in and pull out a loaded Trojan to elicit a confession from a mule.

Okay - is it a card move? I don't want to succumb to anything by way of card selection after this hits print.

BTW, feces throwing is usually considered agressive behavior. Think "you got served" meets X-card manip by way of vogue competitions and you might have something socially acceptable. ;)

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Re: Coming in the February "Magicana" ...

Postby David Acer » January 12th, 2011, 12:48 pm

Richard Kaufman wrote:... is a sleight that David Acer declares will make "... move monkeys throw their feces in joy."


This is the sleight to which Richard is referring - a double card-change by Richard Hucko called "Erdnase [Squared]":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GubP40wO5ak

For the record, it turns out Alpen Nacar also came up with this change independently, and although his version is unpublished, he showed it during a teach-a-trick session at The False Deal Convention in Oklahoma City in 2008.
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Re: Coming in the February "Magicana" ...

Postby Richard Kaufman » January 12th, 2011, 12:55 pm

I've never thrown my feces, either in joy or anger.
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Re: Coming in the February "Magicana" ...

Postby Jonathan Townsend » January 12th, 2011, 1:04 pm

What's the motivation for the back and forth action on that card change?

I like the double change effect. What's the credit history on that one? As best I recall it's usually done from a sidesteal after a triple lift and display or from the back of the pack.
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Re: Coming in the February "Magicana" ...

Postby Richard Kaufman » January 12th, 2011, 4:40 pm

The credits go back to The last issue of Heirophant.
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Re: Coming in the February "Magicana" ...

Postby Philippe Billot » January 12th, 2011, 5:37 pm

It's not exactly the same effect.

Racherbaumer's Double Erdnase Change, in The Last Hierophant, permits to change the face card TWO times.

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Re: Coming in the February "Magicana" ...

Postby Philippe Billot » January 13th, 2011, 6:50 am

Richard Huko's version is identical to the one explains in Royal Road to Card Magic - 1948 (Double Color Change) but his technique differs.

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Re: Coming in the February "Magicana" ...

Postby Richard Kaufman » January 13th, 2011, 12:26 pm

I'm referring to to the handling in Last Heirophant where the card that changes is outjogged. I think that's the point here.
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Re: Coming in the February "Magicana" ...

Postby David Acer » January 15th, 2011, 9:14 pm

Philippe Billot wrote:Richard Huko's version is identical to the one explains in Royal Road to Card Magic - 1948 (Double Color Change) but his technique differs.


Just read the "Double Color Change" in Royal Road and there's no question it should be cited as precedent (if you haven't had a chance to look it up, the top half of the face-up deck is openly stepped forward about half its length, then a double color-change is performed with the two visible cards). I'm happy to say the Hucko/Nacar method is much more elegant.
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Re: Coming in the February "Magicana" ...

Postby Philippe Billot » January 16th, 2011, 2:24 pm

and so is evolution...

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Re: Coming in the February "Magicana" ...

Postby Jonathan Townsend » January 16th, 2011, 2:42 pm

Is there a name for the sleight of doing the Houdini/Erdnase color change where you work sideways rather than front to back?
Mundus vult decipi -per Caleb Carr's story Killing Time

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Re: Coming in the February "Magicana" ...

Postby Richard Kaufman » January 16th, 2011, 2:44 pm

Yes, that would be Harry Levine's Hurricane Change--but feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken.
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Re: Coming in the February "Magicana" ...

Postby Philippe Billot » January 16th, 2011, 3:16 pm

Trapdoor no. 42, 1992, page 744.

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Re: Coming in the February "Magicana" ...

Postby David Acer » January 18th, 2011, 2:44 pm

The Hurricane Change looks great, but for a single-card, face-of-the-deck transformation, you'd be hard-pressed to perform anything more magical than Doc Docherty's Zoso Change: www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT3WmMJI-J4
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Re: Coming in the February "Magicana" ...

Postby Brad Henderson » January 18th, 2011, 3:21 pm

The hurricane change strictly speaking comes off the corner of the deck. It is more diagonal than from the side. Geoff latta had a nice handling of the ersnase change where the card initially comes out the side. However he made a circular motion with the hand making the extraction diagonal-esque

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Re: Coming in the February "Magicana" ...

Postby Jonathan Townsend » January 19th, 2011, 8:21 am

David Acer wrote:
Philippe Billot wrote:Richard Huko's version is identical to the one explains in Royal Road to Card Magic - 1948 (Double Color Change) but his technique differs.


Just read the "Double Color Change" in Royal Road and there's no question it should be cited as precedent (if you haven't had a chance to look it up, the top half of the face-up deck is openly stepped forward about half its length, then a double color-change is performed with the two visible cards). I'm happy to say the Hucko/Nacar method is much more elegant.
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Is there a rationalization for the elbow back and forth in the Houdini/Erdnase change?

The half deck setup for the card change plays well for the cavorting aces or tens. Also sets up a cute red/black sepearation to complete the routine if you're into that stuff.

How about having the two cards spread sideways and keeping the action on that side-to-side frame? Is there a credit on that one?


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