Jonathan Townsend wrote:
...even it if means putting some ideas out in the middle of a thread on a card index product which is advertised as "totally impromptu".
*Disclaimer: This is a comment about discussions in general, not the trick "Q", which already has a thread elsewhere. I'm only using "Q" as an example for a larger issue. I hope that further discussion in this thread will be about the big picture:
So, here's a guy (Andrew) earnestly asking what others are wondering behind the scenes about the decline of useful posts at the Genii Forum (a place of unlimited potential) and Jonathan instantly provides a perfect example of one of the problems:
Some of the guys at Genii would rather argue themselves into a frenzy over some virtually meaningless semantics..... rather than discuss what MOST people want to know.
Again, using "Q" only as an example, why did virtually all the early posters not simply drop the battle about the definition of "impromptu" and move on to the bigger picture?? The manufacturer explained himself......we all know what his intent was......WHAT ABOUT THE VALUE OF THE PRODUCT?? Dang.
If most people figured out that it was an i***x, why is it the only discussion is about the word "impromptu"?? This is so freakin' frustratingly worthless.
As a consumer, I and others want to know "What are the qualities of this prop which might make it valuable to me as a performer?" and "What is it that makes, or doesn't make, this worth the money?"
It doesn't help anyone to basically go off-topic and discuss the dictionary instead of the prop.
If, as Richard claims, it's obvious that this is an i***x, then it's also obvious that "impromptu" is an arguably misguided use of the word. So what? It's not the end of the world!
What IS a lot closer to the end of the world, i.e., usefulness of discussions at Genii Forum, is the lack of open minds to explore other information about the trick/routine/prop/DVD/book, e.g., the quality and value of "Q"!
Again, this is a comment about the discussions, not the trick per se, which already has its own tainted thread.
If Genii is going to continue to be relevant, it has to gain back more writers who are willing to post something of value to the bulk of the readers here. Linguistic wranglings aren't the only reason the Forum is in a slump but it's one that's on the table right now, so have at it.
There is something controversial coming out this week regarding another trick. I suppose the blather about "side issues" will be off the charts on this one as well. Hey, go ahead, surprise me: Somebody actually discuss the trick once they have it. Ha!
- Steve H