Mr. Schneider's Wedding Ring Thing

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Postby Guest » 07/07/06 09:57 AM

Those interested in Mr. Schneider's excellent little "Wedding Ring Thing" routine may also be interested to compare and contrast it with Michael Weber's "Five-cent Ring On Stick" from his book "Lifesavers".

Postby Guest » 07/07/06 11:18 PM


I checked and they are close to identical. I am sure, considering the reputations of both creators, that this was independent creation on both their parts.

But didn't Richard Kaufman publish the Weber book?

I guess you can't remember every trick in the book, even if you published it!

Postby David Acer » 07/08/06 03:34 PM

This incidence of independent creation was brought to our attention very soon after the July issue went out and a crediting correction will appear in the next possible issue (Im not sure if it made the deadline for August, but it will certainly have made September).
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Postby Guest » 07/23/06 04:52 AM

Just got back and getting recovered from the 2006 SAM.
Richard informed me that someone else had the nickel thing out already. (That being M Weber)I am embarassed. I also have it in my latest book, Off-n-More. I got the idea because I was about to buy an extra ring for the routine when I relaized that a nickel would do just as well. As normal I was pleased with myself. However, it seems Mr. Weber was there a long time before me.

Now I have a problem. Should I remove the trick from my book or supply appropriate credit?

I'll talk about the book elsewhere.
Al Schneider

Postby Richard Kaufman » 07/23/06 10:17 AM

I've published 85 books. Not only can I not remember everything in the books, I can't even remember what all the books are!
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Postby Guest » 07/31/06 09:34 AM

Originally posted by Al Schneider:
Now I have a problem. Should I remove the trick from my book or supply appropriate credit?
Probably the best thing to do would be to ask Mr. Weber.

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Postby Pete Biro » 07/31/06 10:07 AM

Leave it in. Wherever possible mention independant thinking.
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Postby Guest » 07/31/06 11:44 AM

Pete, that's the exact thing I thought :D

Postby Guest » 08/15/06 01:50 PM

To Whom It May Concern

Having finally recovered from the 2006 SAM convention, and having sold my first few Off-n-More books, I have updated the book to reflect the fact that Michael Weber came up with the concept used in his ring on stick rouitne in Lifesavers long ago.

After a small discussion via email, he felt including a comment in my book about that would be the wisest thing to do.

I am proud to incude his name in my book.

I also appreciate the comments forwarded by those posting on this thread.

Al Schneider

Postby Guest » 08/15/06 02:27 PM

Both of you gentlemen are certainly among the "good ones".

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