This is the "Berglas Effect"?

Instead of mentally projecting your mentalism thoughts, type them here.

Postby Marcpaulfan » 04/04/10 03:43 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CJ2G9-VC2s
Dear kaufman please write me..
ps:is an italian video.
thank you so much.
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Postby mrgoat » 04/04/10 07:07 AM

And you're selling that for only 120 USD? Brilliant.

Where do we send the money?
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Postby Ian Kendall » 04/04/10 07:28 AM

I think he's using one way backs...
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Postby Marcpaulfan » 04/04/10 09:01 AM

??????????
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Postby mrgoat » 04/04/10 09:23 AM

Marcpaulfan wrote:??????????

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Postby Marcpaulfan » 04/04/10 09:37 AM

i don't understand..i want know if this is the berglas effect...sorry for disturb
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 04/04/10 10:04 AM

This is the same guy who was carrying on here a few weeks ago and posting in all caps.

No, that's not the Berglas Effect.
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Postby Marcpaulfan » 04/04/10 10:26 AM

ok thanks a lot!!!
but is very impressive...
kaufman your book?when?
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 04/04/10 10:51 AM

No, your handling is not very impressive, particularly when you claim to sell it for $120.
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Postby mrgoat » 04/04/10 11:17 AM

Richard Kaufman wrote:This is the same guy who was carrying on here a few weeks ago and posting in all caps.

No, that's not the Berglas Effect.


No, two different guys. The last one was French, this is an Italian. Must be something about europeans not understanding that the Berglas Effect is not simply a one method ACCAN and also not knowing where caps lock is. Weird.
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 04/04/10 12:07 PM

I thought the other guy was Italian as well?
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Postby mrgoat » 04/04/10 01:09 PM

No. I am sure he was French.
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Postby AnthonyBrahams » 04/04/10 04:23 PM

I think it was Philippe Billot.
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Postby Philippe Billot » 04/04/10 05:26 PM

Are you kidding?
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Postby AnthonyBrahams » 04/04/10 05:36 PM

Sorry, I must have been thinking of a helpful posting from M. Billot which must have been in another thread.
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Postby NCMarsh » 04/04/10 06:23 PM

Thanks to the handy search function we learn that Stefano Nobile is the gentleman in question and that he is likely italian (Many of the comments he writes on the YouTube video -- the first one is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J-PT2RfEsc -- are in Italian. His first post is here: http://www.geniimagazine.com/forums/ubb ... 78/fpart/1 .

When I am on my deathbed, facing my last ten minutes in this world, at least I'll know that the ten spent tracking this information down were wisely used...
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 04/04/10 07:43 PM

aha! It is the same guy.
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Postby John M. Dale » 04/05/10 12:55 AM

mrgoat wrote:No. I am sure he was French.


What is it about you English guys? Always trying to blame the French (or is it the Germans?)

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Postby Ian Kendall » 04/05/10 03:32 AM

For what it's worth, we tend to blame the English.
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Postby mrgoat » 04/05/10 06:17 AM

NCMarsh wrote:Thanks to the handy search function we learn that Stefano Nobile is the gentleman in question and that he is likely italian (Many of the comments he writes on the YouTube video -- the first one is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J-PT2RfEsc -- are in Italian. His first post is here: http://www.geniimagazine.com/forums/ubb ... 78/fpart/1 .

When I am on my deathbed, facing my last ten minutes in this world, at least I'll know that the ten spent tracking this information down were wisely used...


Hehe. OK, I am wrong. I was sure the other chap was French. Sorry Richard for making you doubt your sanity!
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Postby Jonathan Townsend » 04/05/10 08:21 AM

Marcpaulfan wrote:i don't understand..i want know if this is the berglas effect...sorry for disturb


Perhaps better to ask Mr. Berglas if he's authorized anyone (or that person in particular) to go selling a version of his trick?

Monkey see, monkey do ... call it the what?
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 04/05/10 10:19 AM

Any Card at Any Number is ancient. The Berglas Effect simply adds restrictions to it. David does not have any rights to the effect other than the version he uses.
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Postby Bill Mullins » 04/05/10 10:47 AM

He certainly would have some proprietary interest in the name "The Berglas Effect" -- unless you have his blessing, it should be called something else.
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Postby Larry Horowitz » 04/05/10 08:38 PM

Richard is correct ACAAN is ancient. However.......

After exhaustive research and expenditure of monies I have obtained the exclusive rights to "Card At Position 13".

This is now MINE!!!!

Please contact me for franchise purchase information.

Mr Goat will be allowed right of first refusal on all British proposals. (he will also be building the website)

(Italian requests must be submitted in French)
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Postby Bill Mullins » 04/06/10 01:22 AM

Mike Close tells us that one should not release a variant trick unless it is an improvement in effect, method or presentation. I have done all three with "Card at Position 15"!!!

Effect -- Position 15 is two cards more astounding than Position 13

Method -- My method is better. So there.

Presentation -- Think of all the presentational opportunities available with "15" that simply don't exist with "13".

As soon as I can get an edgy video of this MIRACLE onto youtube, I expect to sell out of limited edition ebooks. Order now.
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Postby Larry Horowitz » 04/06/10 02:45 AM

Bill,

Would you consider a partnership on position 14?

Though I don't yet have the method worked out, I would be able to bring to the deal a NEW deck of cards.

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Postby Denis Behr » 04/06/10 03:09 AM

Bill Mullins wrote:Mike Close tells us that one should not release a variant trick unless it is an improvement in effect, method or presentation.

To set the record straight, he quotes Darwin Ortiz here from his excellent introduction in Cardshark.
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Postby Jonathan Townsend » 04/06/10 07:57 AM

IMHO the rationalizations for making claims on variations are missing the word "significant". And that very notion tends to inform my opinion of those who offer such items.

I shall claim card at 52, "The Bottom Line", "It's Yours, Face It". So many things one can say about 52 and its factors. ;) May well be the epitome of evolution on that - as there's not much further one can descend with modification.
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Postby Jonathan Townsend » 04/06/10 08:57 AM

* Hold the presses... adding "Face Up Rise and Shine" and "Slacker Card" to that list of "card at 52" variations. Since the first is a face up application - it's a significant variation and worthy of it's own ebook. ;)
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Postby Brian Marks » 04/06/10 12:08 PM

I always thought the Berglas effect was to see how people could market an amazing AACAN version.
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Postby Jonathan Townsend » 04/06/10 04:15 PM

What is AACAN trick? Is there a video?
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Postby Necromancer » 04/06/10 04:52 PM

Any Anvil Clobbers Any Numismatist?
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Postby John Signa » 04/06/10 05:39 PM

Brian Marks wrote:I always thought the Berglas effect was to see how people could market an amazing AACAN version.


And every one of them is the ultimate version.
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Postby Tom Frame » 04/06/10 06:21 PM

Not surprisingly, my next review is of Tim Ellis's version of ACAAN. They're coming out of the woodwork!
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Postby Stan Willis » 04/07/10 01:41 PM

I have to wonder if this trend will continue after the publication of David Berglas's Card Magic?
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Postby Jonathan Townsend » 04/07/10 01:43 PM

Is the entire/complete explanation of how DB does his ACAAN in the new book that RK says he's working on?
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 04/07/10 01:52 PM

Stan, Jon: There is a 20,000 word chapter on The Berglas Effect in my current draft of the book. I can guarantee that it will generate a lot of conversation.
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 04/07/10 02:40 PM

I don't see that Jon's recitation of what Mickey Silver did has any bearing on the book I'm writing.
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Postby Jonathan Townsend » 04/07/10 02:58 PM

Guess I'm being a bit of a grouch about magic ad copy today. :( I'll blame my allergies. Sorry.

I've been waiting to explore the ACAAN effect till the guy who's made it his own choses to share his work.
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Postby NCMarsh » 04/07/10 05:17 PM

Jon, do you mean that you are waiting for Berglas to publish his work? He has.

While I'm very interested to read the Kaufman write-up, let's not pretend that the piece is unpublished -- there is a long write-up in the Britland book.

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