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Postby Christopher Lyle » 12/03/09 03:44 PM

I am in need of everyone's assistance...

About a year and a half ago, I began to mentor a young man who has become quite proficient with Magic. He's a super talented 14 year old kid who's got better chops than most pros that are out there in the field today.

About a week ago, I learned something that really saddend me. This young man has not received a Christmas or Birthday Present in the last several years as his family cannot afford to provide him with such.

They pretty much live hand to mouth and it's hard enough for them to be able to pay their bills. Basically...they can get presents for Christmas...or they can eat. Very sad indeed...

I have decided to try and provide this deserving young man with a Christmas this year...my own little "angel" if you will...but I cannot do it alone. I am accepting donations to provide this young man with the best Christmas he has ever seen. I have a few folks who have already sent me a few bucks to put towards this cause as well, but more funds are needed.

Anything that you can spare...$5, $20, $100...whatever! I figure if I can raise a few hundred dollars, I can get this young man a really great Christmas this year.

All donations can be sent to me via www.paypal.com to lylemagic@aol.com

Thanks in Advance...and Merry Christmas to all.

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Postby Richard Kaufman » 12/03/09 04:43 PM

Would he like a few books?
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Postby Christopher Lyle » 12/03/09 04:56 PM

I've received many emails from folks who are not able to donate money but are able to donate used magic to the cause...which would be GREAT! If you have some old magic that is still in "performance condition" please contact me privately.

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Postby Mark.Lewis » 12/03/09 05:29 PM

Not that I am a sceptical type of course but how do we know he is real? Some people are as iffy as I am.
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Postby Christopher Lyle » 12/03/09 05:41 PM

Mark,

You have to go out on a limb and actually trust me. Do you really think that I would try and scam my fellow magicians?

If you don't wish to help out then don't. But if you want to help give a good kid a great Christmas by donating a few bucks, then go out on a limb and take a chance. He would greatly appreciate it.

If everyone would donate just $5 then that would be awesome!

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Postby Mark.Lewis » 12/04/09 01:40 AM

No Christopher I don't think you would try and scam your fellow magicians but I asked a legitimate question. If what you say is genuine then I think what you are doing is highly commendable. All I am saying is that you should provide more proof. You are after all asking people for money with no evidence whatever as to where it is going.

There seem to be threads all the time on here about people who have sent money into the unknown and regretted it later.

As someone once said, "Trust everybody but cut the cards" or as I think Ronald Reagan said, Trust but verify"

In fact I am doing you a favour by raising doubt. If you can convince people of your sincerity then I expect more money will be forthcoming.

How you offer that proof is up to you. But offer it you should.
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Postby Christopher Lyle » 12/04/09 02:24 AM

I have no way that I can offer proof to you Mark other than to say my word is my bond. The response has been grand thus far, so apparently the rest of the world isn't as untrusting as you are.

I will continue to protect this young man's privacy and identity. Not that it matters...I could say his name was Ben or Steve or Bill and that still wouldn't provide you with proof.

What would you have me do...?

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Postby Mark.Lewis » 12/04/09 02:38 AM

I have no idea what you should do. That is entirely up to you. I believe you but you are asking a lot.You must remember that I have been around a lot of scam artists in my time. It colours my views on these matters. Anyway I wish you the best of luck with it. I think you are doing a wonderful thing. I just need to be convinced that everything is on the up and up.

A reasonable request I would have thought.
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Postby Paul Gordon » 12/04/09 06:08 AM

Dear Christopher,

As in Richard Kaufman's note - if he'd like a book or two, email me his postal address and I'll send him something from the UK.

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Postby Christopher Lyle » 12/04/09 10:57 AM

PM Sent Paul...

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Postby magicman1953 » 12/04/09 03:40 PM

Just had to drop my opinion ...I have traveled all across america and have to say the people of texas are the nicest I have met they will go out of their way for people they don't even know at the drop of a hat. At least the ones I ran into while I was there.

Yes Mark there are a lot of bad things going on today but not all are scams ....Tis the season

Christopher please pm me also with an address I would like to send a few things to make his day a little better

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Postby mrgoat » 12/04/09 04:15 PM

Maybe setting up a registered charity.

Maybe putting up a website where people could donate.

Maybe having a video clip of the kid opening a donated gift and being happy.

I agree that although that sentiment may well be lovely, in this day and age, sending a stranger money on the internet is something I would never do. Ever.
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Postby Mark.Lewis » 12/04/09 04:20 PM

magicman1953 wrote:Just had to drop my opinion ...I have traveled all across america and have to say the people of texas are the nicest I have met


Yes and Texas has the highest rate of executions in the United States so I would venture to say that not everyone is quite so nice there including your last president.
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Postby Christopher Lyle » 12/04/09 04:35 PM

mrgoat wrote:Maybe setting up a registered charity.

Maybe putting up a website where people could donate.

Maybe having a video clip of the kid opening a donated gift and being happy.

I agree that although that sentiment may well be lovely, in this day and age, sending a stranger money on the internet is something I would never do. Ever.


If you feel uneasy with trusting your fellow magician by sending a monatary donation thru my PayPal account, then perhaps you could mail me something to give him on Christmas Eve? Any old books, dvds, magic, etc that you're no longer wanting that you could donate would be awesome!

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Postby Jeff.Prace » 12/05/09 01:54 AM

Hey Christopher,

If he'd like a copy of my Gum DVD I'll happily send one over soon.
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Postby Magic Randy » 12/05/09 05:14 PM

Christopher,

A box of stuff shipped today.

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Postby Christopher Lyle » 12/05/09 06:34 PM

Thanks Randi...

Jeff...I PMed you!

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Postby Paul Gordon » 12/06/09 01:52 AM

Just posted a copy of Card Marvels...PG
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Postby Christopher Lyle » 12/06/09 11:09 AM

Paul,

You're the BEST! Thanks buddy...

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Postby Tom Dobrowolski » 12/07/09 10:24 AM

While this is a nice thing being done here I'd encourage all members of this board to also look into charities in there own back yard where there are families in the same situation.

Donate to your local food bank or check with your local Salvation Army and/or place of worship. There are families and kids who need food, clothing and the basic essentials to survive. If you dont have the money right now to donate you can always donate your time and/or gently used clothing. And please remember there are a lot of folks who need help all year round and not just at Christmas time.

Good luck with this effort.
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Postby Christopher Lyle » 12/07/09 02:47 PM

Tom...

You're absolutly correct. I guess it's easy for us all to forget about people going thru a rough time b/c you don't actually see it going on day to day.

However, with my young friend, I am seeing how hard he has it and it breaks my heart. Poor Kid!

Thanks to everyone thus far who has donated to the cause. If you're able to send money or used Magic, that would be awesome. Financial donations may be sent to me directly via PayPal to lylemagic@aol.com. If you wish to send goods, PM me for my address.

Thanks again to all...

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Postby Jim Sisti » 12/07/09 07:12 PM

Christopher Lyle wrote:Tom...

You're absolutly correct. I guess it's easy for us all to forget about people going thru a rough time b/c you don't actually see it going on day to day.

However, with my young friend, I am seeing how hard he has it and it breaks my heart. Poor Kid!

Thanks to everyone thus far who has donated to the cause. If you're able to send money or used Magic, that would be awesome. Financial donations may be sent to me directly via PayPal to lylemagic@aol.com. If you wish to send goods, PM me for my address.

Thanks again to all...

Christopher


Don't worry about the two nay-sayers (first-class wind-up artists both) and one wet blanket, Christopher. It's not like you would have gotten anything out of any of them anyway...
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Postby Tom Dobrowolski » 12/07/09 10:20 PM

Jim Sisti wrote:
Christopher Lyle wrote:Tom...

You're absolutly correct. I guess it's easy for us all to forget about people going thru a rough time b/c you don't actually see it going on day to day.

However, with my young friend, I am seeing how hard he has it and it breaks my heart. Poor Kid!

Thanks to everyone thus far who has donated to the cause. If you're able to send money or used Magic, that would be awesome. Financial donations may be sent to me directly via PayPal to lylemagic@aol.com. If you wish to send goods, PM me for my address.

Thanks again to all...

Christopher


Don't worry about the two nay-sayers (first-class wind-up artists both) and one wet blanket, Christopher. It's not like you would have gotten anything out of any of them anyway...


What a strange post. Not only did I say it was a good thing I wished him luck in his endevour. I simply took the opportunity to remind people that there are a lot of folks who need help these days and all year round. It's unfortunate you chose to read something in my post that frankly wasn't there.

It seems Chris understood. His first two sentences in his reply to my post hits the nail on the head. Even if he had assumed something else that wasn't there, he showed a lot of class in his response. It's also strange and unfortunate that you assume to know anything about me or what I may or may not do for charitable causes.

I'll give you the courtesy you didn't give me and write it off to a bad day. Have a good holiday.
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Postby Mark.Lewis » 12/07/09 11:08 PM

Tom. Take no notice of Sisti. He has always been a bit of a misery. At least your post has now identified you as the wet blanket. I couldn't figure out who he meant.

To go off at a tangent I have wondered for years how a wet blanket came to mean a naysayer. The sort of thing that amuses me
since I have a lot of time on my hands.

Besides it hasn't occured to anyone that it is the naysayers and wet blankets who are keeping this thread alive and bringing more donations as a result thereof. I learned years ago that controversy always brings more money.
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Postby Jonathan Townsend » 12/08/09 11:46 AM

Help him get a gig - and bring joy to others ( and money home as well )

just thinking...
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Postby Christopher Lyle » 12/08/09 10:16 PM

The problem is Jonathan is that should he book a gig, he has nothing to perform in that looks halfway professional. He doesn't even own so much as a dress white dress shirt. Pretty much all of his "stuff" are hand me downs that dont' fit.

But he walks thru life with his head held high and never complains about anything. He's a great kid and deserves better...

Thanks to those who have donated thus far...

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Postby Mark.Lewis » 12/08/09 10:39 PM

Get him out busking then. They tend to be a scruffy lot anyway. And a kid might get more money.
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Postby Jonathan Townsend » 12/08/09 10:55 PM

I should have been a little more specific with the suggestion - maybe as assistant and guest at shows for the couple of tricks he can work on. Apprentice kind of thing to start.
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Postby Jeff.Prace » 12/11/09 07:51 PM

Hey Christopher,

I just shipped you a copy of Gum.

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Postby Seuss » 12/11/09 09:38 PM

there is a link in jeff prace's signature to his DVD gum
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Postby Jeff.Prace » 12/12/09 12:09 AM

Hey guys:

Please, let's stay on the topic of Christopher's objective.
If you'd like to discuss Gum, here is a thread: http://www.geniimagazine.com/forums/ubb ... Post209347

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Postby Christopher Lyle » 12/12/09 04:21 AM

Jeff,

Thanks so much for sending Gum. I'll let ya know when it arrives!

It's not too late to mkae a donation. I will be meeting up with my young friend on December 2oth to make the deliver. If you have any used Magic, Books, DVDs, etc. then contact my privately for my mailing addy.

Cash donations are still be accepted thru PayPal at lylemagic@aol.com

Thanks again everyone...

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Postby Edward » 12/12/09 04:55 PM

Chris, lets know his reactions to these presents. :)
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Postby Jim Riser » 12/12/09 08:28 PM

Christopher;
Email me directly. I have a new item for "the kid".
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P.S. I'd send him a Svengali deck but I'm certain that is being taken care of by someone in Canada.
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Postby Mark.Lewis » 12/12/09 10:16 PM

I will be happy to send the young man a lucky playing card which has been blessed by a psychic. Me. If he puts the card underneath his pillow when he goes to bed and makes a wish I promise-I really promise- that when he wakes up in the morning -that card will still be - underneath his pillow..............
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Postby Mark.Lewis » 12/13/09 01:42 AM

Interestingly enough I have not made 666 posts at all since I have returned here. I don't know why it says that many. I have only made about 100 posts altogether if even that. It must be recording all the posts I have made since the beginning of time.

Furthermore I do hope you are not being impertinent.
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Postby Joe Pecore » 12/13/09 02:07 AM

Mark.Lewis wrote:I have only made about 100 posts altogether if even that.


You've made 100 posts just in December: http://www.geniimagazine.com/forums/ubb ... s/id/4551/
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Postby Mark.Lewis » 12/13/09 02:35 AM

No. That wasn't me. That was Satan impersonating me.
Anyway it is all very odd. I could have sworn that I was talking to someone here a moment ago. He seems to have vanished. I must have been hallucinating.
Satan is truly at work methinks.
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 12/13/09 11:28 AM

Not satan, just me. I banned the other person who was a troll and did nothing but make nasty remarks in his 7 posts.
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Postby Mark.Lewis » 12/13/09 02:18 PM

Oh then it was Satan after all. I bet Jeff Busby agrees with me.

I am most upset to find that there has been another troll here. I hate competition.
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