Vanni Bossi Pencil through bill

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Postby Steve Cobb » 05/13/09 01:04 PM

I noticed that a new DVD of Vanni Bossi's magic has been released and did not see his trick "pencil through bill" is listed. Does anyone know if this trick is published anywhere? Thanks in advance.
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Postby Bill McFadden » 05/13/09 01:22 PM

I just looked through two sets of Vanni's lecture notes, and the effect is not included. However, I suggest you contact Stevens' Magic Emporium to see if they have any remaining supply of the "secret" used in this effect. They were consigned a supply after the World Magic Seminar in 2002.

Let us know how you make out. In fact, I must finally obtain Vanni's secret from Stevens if there are any remaining in their inventory.
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Postby Steve Cobb » 05/13/09 01:41 PM

Bill: Good Day! Thanks for your help. I contacted Stevens and they do have some of these left in stock.
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Postby Dick Christian » 05/13/09 02:53 PM

Haven't seen Vanni Bossi's effect. For those who have, is it significantly different from Timothy Wenk's "Misled" pencil thru bill effect from the late 1970s-early 80's? Just wondering.
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Postby Bill McFadden » 05/13/09 03:56 PM

Dick Christian wrote:Haven't seen Vanni Bossi's effect. For those who have, is it significantly different from Timothy Wenk's "Misled" pencil thru bill effect from the late 1970s-early 80's? Just wondering.


Yes, it's significantly different. Both pencil and bill can be borrowed (and returned). The mage's hands are clean at all times.
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Postby Lee Almond » 05/13/09 09:15 PM

OK, I'll bite as I only live 15 minutes away from Stevens shop. Is Vanni's effect better than Sankey's pencil thru dollar? Just wondering.
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Postby Marco Pusterla » 05/14/09 03:53 AM

Vanni Bossi's version is completely different from Misled but is better performed with US dollar bills.

You can see Vanni perform it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PwhTbes3qA (it's in Italian, but the effect is clear).

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Postby Lee Almond » 05/14/09 10:21 PM

Very cool. Thanks for the link.
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Postby Pete McCabe » 05/14/09 11:00 PM

This is the trick Racherbaumer mentioned, right? I searched the Castle library in vain for it. If I contact Stevens to get the secret something, do I have to contact someone else to find out how to do the trick? And who is that?

BTW the effect of this is completely different than Misled or Dough (the Sankey trick). In Vanni's trick you openly make a hole in the billthe spectator can see through itand you then restore the bill. The effect of Misled and Dough is that a pen passes through a bill without creating a hole.
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Postby Marco Pusterla » 05/15/09 03:39 AM

Yes, this is the trick Racherbaumer mentioned in Genii when remembering Vanni.

I don't know what you can get from Stevens, but I seem to remember that Vanni was selling the "secret something" and the instructions as a package... I would assume Stevens sells the same package, but that's just my guess...

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Postby AnthonyBrahams » 05/15/09 04:28 AM

Stevens were selling the complete package, instructions, something and a regular pencil for this superb effectsee Marco's YouTube link.
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Postby erdnasephile » 05/20/09 07:44 PM

AnthonyBrahams wrote:Stevens were selling the complete package, instructions, something and a regular pencil for this superb effectsee Marco's YouTube link.


I just received mine from Stevens--very, very clever. Stevens Magic also let me know by email that they are now sold out. (You all move fast! :grin:)
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Postby Mark Ratekin » 05/20/09 10:23 PM

As a person who is a bit obsessed with the pencil-through-bill plot, I was disappointed to learn I made my order with Stevens' a little too late. If anyone wants to part with theirs, I would be interested.

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Postby Pete McCabe » 05/21/09 12:58 AM

I emailed them to see if they had it, but then I had a moment, so I called and ordered it. When they returned my email they were sold out. I had sniped myself.

The method is, I have to say, extremely simple and somewhat frightening. It will require huge balls to return the bill to the spectator. But it's an incredible miracle for television -- I wonder if Vanni created it for this medium.
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Postby PickaCard » 05/21/09 10:07 AM

Mark,

I picked one up from Vanni when he lectured in Ottawa and I am willing to part with it. Send me a PM if you are interested.
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Postby David Regal » 05/27/09 06:41 PM

Vanni Bossi was a genius. Such wonderful ideas and effects. Mr. Bossi's method for the trick discussed here included a special substance that he used for the effect. I've tried others, but none are as good. PM me if you know what he used!
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Postby David Nethery » 03/27/10 03:52 PM

Will this ever be available again from Stevens or anyone else ?

Who has the rights to Vanni Bossi's material ? I hope they will release this again.
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Postby Marco Pusterla » 03/28/10 02:09 PM

David Nethery wrote:Will this ever be available again from Stevens or anyone else ?

Who has the rights to Vanni Bossi's material ? I hope they will release this again.


David,

I don't know if this trick will be available again. The rights of Vanni Bossi's effects and material belong to his son.

Hope this helps, all the best,
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Postby Jonathan Townsend » 03/28/10 03:19 PM

I'd rather see the the trick offered with permission than knocked off and sold under a different name by folks looking to make a quick buck on a good item.
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Postby David Nethery » 03/28/10 06:38 PM

Jonathan Townsend wrote:I'd rather see the the trick offered with permission than knocked off and sold under a different name by folks looking to make a quick buck on a good item.


Absolutely. That's why I asked who owned the rights. I would not buy it if it were a knock-off. But if Steven's Magic (or any other dealer) gets an authorized version I would buy it. I never had the opportunity to see Vanni Bossi perform it in person, but the effect looks very strong in the video link that was posted above.
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