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Need reference help

Postby Jeff Pierce Magic » February 12th, 2009, 10:01 am

I need the correct name a credit reference for theis move perhaps called the swirl change?

With the card held between your right middle finger and right thumb, pull the card near the outer left edge toward your hand with the 1st finger. The card will pivot on middle finger/thumb and thus turnover exposing the other side. Wave your right hand in a large side to side motion to hide the turnover of the card.

Maybe Vernon?
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Re: Need reference help

Postby Dustin Stinett » February 12th, 2009, 4:23 pm

RRrrrrrrr.....I just saw this on the PH/TA discs and I'm certain it was accreditedI just can't recall to whom (I think Marlo and another name). I'm not home right now to check. Maybe someone else will check for you: I think its during Reswindled on disc Five.

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Re: Need reference help

Postby Ryan Matney » February 12th, 2009, 4:40 pm

This was originally published by Ed Marlo as "In Lieu of the through the fist flourish" Sankey seems to have popularized it with the name 'The Twirl Change"
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Re: Need reference help

Postby Philippe Billot » February 13th, 2009, 7:37 am

See At the Table by Jon Racherbaumer, page 157, 1984.
But I think it was first published in M-U-M.

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Re: Need reference help

Postby Joe Pecore » February 13th, 2009, 7:45 am

Philippe Billot wrote:See At the Table by Jon Racherbaumer, page 157, 1984.
But I think it was first published in M-U-M.

M-U-M, July 1983, page 16 in his column "At The Table with Jon Rocherbaumer".

Jon states: "The inspirational source of the specific mechanics is Noel Stanton's 'Pivot Colour Change' from THE GEN (June-1964) which in turn was inspired by Bob Hummer's change."
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Re: Need reference help

Postby Philippe Billot » February 13th, 2009, 8:28 am

The Gen, vol. 20, no 2, june 1964, page 43, Pivot Colour Change by Noel Stanton.

Inspired by Bob Hummer's Visual Change, page 53 from Dai Vernon's Inner Secrets of Card Magic (1959)

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Re: Need reference help

Postby Jeff Pierce Magic » February 14th, 2009, 1:19 am

Thanks to all for the info.

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