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Postby Magic Newswire » 01/12/09 02:51 PM

During our interview, Jim Steinmeyer he mentioned the upcoming release of his new book on Thurston as well as the oversized book on the History of Magic that he collaborating on with Mr. Caveney. Both may be available by the end of 2009. Something to look forward to.
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Postby Dustin Stinett » 01/12/09 03:40 PM

I have chatted with Mike Caveney a few times about the oversized book. It is being published by Taschen Books (Germany) which is famous for their lavish work. The book on magic history will be similar to the book they published on the history of the circus (The Circus: 1870-1950 by Linda Granfield, Dominique Jando, Fred Dahlinger, Jr., and edited by Noel Daniel). That book is over 670 pages, measures 11 by 17 inches, and contains over 900 photographs and illustrations. The price will be commensurate with its sizein the $200 rangebut given its authors, its bound to be worth every penny. Mike expects it to be ready before the History Conference in November.

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Postby Richard Kaufman » 01/12/09 03:42 PM

I've held the Circus book: if you thought the Zarrow book was too big to read comfortably, you'll laugh at this tombstone. It must weigh 20 pounds! Beautiful, though, and available for less than its retail price in many places.
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Postby Dale Shrimpton » 01/13/09 09:41 AM

will the thurston book, be along the same lines as hiding the elephant, and the soo book?
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 01/13/09 11:22 AM

The Soo book is a biography, Hiding the Elephant is not. I don't think they have much in common. The Thurston book will be a bio, but it will be at least a year or so until it's out.
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Postby mai-ling » 01/13/09 11:36 AM

i look forward to his thurston book.
i really enjoy jim's writing style.
he's the only author i can read
that i can start and finish...
considering i am illiterate.
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Postby Dale Shrimpton » 01/13/09 11:46 AM

Richard Kaufman wrote:The Soo book is a biography, Hiding the Elephant is not. I don't think they have much in common. The Thurston book will be a bio, but it will be at least a year or so until it's out.


Thanks Richard, But I think you might of misunderstood me.
:)

what i ment was is it going to be written in the same style as Glorious deception, and elephant.

To me, both books score really highly, in their entertaining, and engaging style,whereas to a point the Kulash Houdini book felt a little dry.If you know what i mean :)
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 01/13/09 12:14 PM

I believe that Steinmeyer has developed a style of writing which, if you enjoyed the Soo book and Hiding the Elephant, you will find in the Thurston book. I don't know why you would compare anything Jim writes to the Houdini book, which was written by others.
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Postby Brad Henderson » 02/11/09 10:56 PM

Just got the Circus book.

You need to buy this.

I am not a "circus fan" per se; but if the Magic version is anything close to this, you will want both to have a complete set.

These types of books have habit of going out of print and getting very costly. (I know, I just paid double for a different book that one year ago I could have had at list price.)

This is a stunning tome.

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Postby Kevin Connolly » 02/11/09 11:27 PM

Brad,

Any mention of Houdini or other magicians in the book?
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Postby hugmagic » 02/11/09 11:41 PM

I picked up the Circus book from Amazon for about $135 which is a real deal.

Believe this book will knock your socks off. But you have to read it at a table. Not a bedside reader in anyway.

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Postby Richard Kaufman » 02/12/09 12:45 AM

I looked at a copy at a friend's house last year. It seems stupidly large and heavy to me: at least four times the size of Greater Magic. The layout was chaos, it was hard to figure out where the text was and in what language (it turns out it's in three or four languages).

I really wasn't in any way motivated to spend $200 for it. I have much higher hopes for the magic version, with Steinmeyer and Caveney writing it. But the format is just crazy--too big for any human to comfortably read.
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Postby Brad Henderson » 02/12/09 02:28 AM

Just got it.

There is a sideshow section and there is a reprint of the Karmi poster, I have seen those in flipping through. I am sure there are magicians in it. Will check the index when I can and get back to you.

The book IS huge, but it's an art book. I will sacrifice comfort for large beautiful images in which one can actually discern the details. I made it through two or three chapters today comfortably.

It's not perfect, I am sure. But if the magic version has the same type of content (written and visual) people will want it and many will be upset they can not complete the set.
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Postby Kevin Connolly » 02/12/09 09:06 AM

Thanks for looking Brad. I appreciate it.

I've seen it mentioned here that the magic version is coming. Is this the Steinmeyer book mentioned above?
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 02/12/09 10:47 AM

There are actually three Steinmeyer books on the way.
The first will be the magic version of the circus book.
The second will be the biography of Thurston.
The third may come out at any time and will be ... a secret for now.
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Postby Kevin Connolly » 02/12/09 10:56 AM

Thanks Richard. Would the circus book and the magic book be considered a set or do they really stand alone? The only similarities I see is the publisher. I just don't want to be kicking myself if I don't buy the circus book.
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 02/12/09 11:17 AM

I don't think they're a set. If they do more of them then they could be considered part of a series. The choice of the first two relies entirely upon graphic materials available. So, the next one might be THEATER or something like that. Who knows.
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Postby Steve Bryant » 02/12/09 02:37 PM

The Circus book is worth having for its own sake. There is a photo and a titillating description of it on my current web site at

http://littleegyptmagic.com/magic.html
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Postby Ray Eden » 05/28/09 04:20 AM

I just finished reading the Soo bio, and found the book fascinating. I really look forward to these new works from Steinmeyer.

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Postby Eoin O'hare » 07/13/09 07:06 PM

You can pre-order the "Magic Book" here
Although, I'll wait until I see it advertised closer to home- I'm thinking postage, and, weighs a ton.
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Postby mai-ling » 07/13/09 09:20 PM

Ray Eden wrote:I just finished reading the Soo bio, and found the book fascinating. I really look forward to these new works from Steinmeyer.

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i enjoyed the book too...

the upcoming book that mike and jim collaborated on looks
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 07/13/09 11:36 PM

Steinmeyer is busy writing the Thurston book now, but I don't think publication date is for another year (fall of 2010).

Real world publishers take their time in getting stuff out.

The book I'm writing on magic for the public has had its publication date shifted from September to December, but still this year. Am just reviewing the copy-edited text now.

As for the book on magic by Taschen that Jim and Mike are writing, I don't think it will be out in time for the History Conference.
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Postby DrDanny » 07/27/09 10:44 AM

Richard Kaufman wrote:As for the book on magic by Taschen that Jim and Mike are writing, I don't think it will be out in time for the History Conference.


Amazon.com is now taking pre-orders on the Taschen book. $125, which is considerably below cover price.
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 07/27/09 08:32 PM

At dinner the other day, Mike Caveney said he just signed off on the final page proofs the other day, which means the book is yet to go on press. He said that Taschen insists the book will be printed and at the Conference.

It's hard for me to believe that it will be printed, bound, and shipped all the way to the US from Italy (where it's printed) in time for the History Conference at the beginning of November. The thing is enormous--I can't imagine anyone carrying it home on the plane considering its weight. And are they going to sell it at the $200 retail at the Conference? Seems silly if it's on amazon for $125.
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Postby Magic Randy » 07/27/09 10:09 PM

Richard Kaufman wrote:At dinner the other day, Mike Caveney said he just signed off on the final page proofs the other day, which means the book is yet to go on press. He said that Taschen insists the book will be printed and at the Conference.

It's hard for me to believe that it will be printed, bound, and shipped all the way to the US from Italy (where it's printed) in time for the History Conference at the beginning of November. The thing is enormous--I can't imagine anyone carrying it home on the plane considering its weight. And are they going to sell it at the $200 retail at the Conference? Seems silly if it's on amazon for $125.


I already have it on preorder from Amazon. $126.00.

Maybe there is a deluxe edition that will be sold at the History Conference. I'm not sure why anyone would pay $200 for the regular edition when Amazon has it so much cheaper.
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Postby Magic Randy » 07/27/09 10:10 PM

Was the magic version of the circus book ever published?
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 07/27/09 10:17 PM

That's what we're discussing: the magic version of the circus book.
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Postby Magic Randy » 07/27/09 11:01 PM

Richard Kaufman wrote:That's what we're discussing: the magic version of the circus book.


Thanks Richard.

I ordered Magic when I saw the link for preorder a couple weeks back. I assumed it was the Thurston book and snapped it up when I saw the price. Now that I look at it I see it has Kellar's picture on it, so that should have told me it was not the Thurston book.

I wanted both books anyway, but I guess this suggests that the Thurston book is a long ways off.

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Postby Richard Kaufman » 07/28/09 04:33 AM

Thurston is scheduled to come out next fall (2010).
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Postby garciadini » 07/29/09 02:11 PM

I pre-ordered from Amazon also. I guess the size is of concern, but I was able to get through the enormous two volume set of Gary Larsen Complete Far Side works, and I mean it these books are heavy! The truth is, if it is something you really enjoy, then you'll manage to get through it somehow. I'm looking foward to the release!
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Postby de ritis » 08/24/09 01:29 PM

The book will be on sale on the European market mid-September, and in the Usa in November.
The book is ready and will be certainly available at the announced date. I contributed in consulting for the Circus book, and I was impressed how organized are at Taschen and precise about deadlines.

By the way, you can by now see the book and leaf through his ENTIRE 680-pages content on the taschen site:

http://www.taschen.com/pages/en/catalog ... s1950s.htm

But maybe you don't want destroy the surprise of discovering this masterpiece in full size.
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Postby Eoin O'hare » 08/24/09 06:17 PM

Amazon UK now have it at a pre-order discounted price of 87.75 Here
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