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Ganson Teach-In Series

Postby Van McGee » December 11th, 2008, 1:13 pm

Here is a list of the one's I know about. Are there any others?

Fantastic Thimbles, Weery's A Fantasy In Thimbles - ?

Columbini's Cups and Balls - 1977

Mark Weston's Continuous Cigarette Production - 1977

Zombie: The Floating Ball - 1977

Three Chinese Rings - 1977

The Floating and Dancin Cane - 1977

Card Fans 1978

Bernard's Lesson On Coin Magic - 1978

Bernard on Dice Stacking 1979

One In The Hand Two In The Pocket - 1979

The Hindu Thread Trick 1980

Rovi Reveals - 1980

A New Look At the Okito Box - 1983

Matching The Cards - 1987

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Re: Ganson Teach-In Series

Postby Jim Sisti » December 11th, 2008, 2:37 pm

I believe there was a title on the Endless Chain and another on Three-Card Monte.

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Re: Ganson Teach-In Series

Postby Ian Kendall » December 11th, 2008, 2:45 pm

I can confirm that - I have both.

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Re: Ganson Teach-In Series

Postby Van McGee » December 11th, 2008, 3:20 pm

Ian, do you have the titles and publication dates?

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Re: Ganson Teach-In Series

Postby Andrew Pinard » December 11th, 2008, 4:10 pm

CONFIRMED TITLES [except where noted, I have copies]:

A Fantasy In Thimbles: Werry's Fantastic Thimbles - 1979
A New Look at Card Fans 1978
A New Look At the Okito Box 1983
Bernard's Lesson On Coin Magic - 1978
Bernard's Lesson On Dice Stacking 1979
Colombini's Cups and Balls - 1977
Mark Weston's Continuous Cigarette Production - 1977
Matching the Cards - 1977
Rings Supreme: Aldo Colombini's Presentation of the Linking Rings - 1978
Rovi Reveals - 1980
The Floating and Dancing Cane - 1977
The Hindu Thread Trick often referred to as The Gypsy Thread 1980
The Sympathetic Silks 1977 [do not have a copy, confirmed with Byron Walker]
The Three Card Monte as Entertainment - 1980
Three Chinese Rings - 1977
Two in the Hand and One In The Pocket - 1979
Zombie: The Floating Ball - 1977

UNCONFIRMED TITLES [I do not have copies]:

Endless Chain 1983 (Ian, is this the full extent of the title?)
Phoney 1983
Rinks Rope & Ring 1980

If anyone can confirm the latter titles it would be appreciated (please make sure that the cover has "Ganson's Magic Teach-In Series" printed on it).

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Andrew

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Re: Ganson Teach-In Series

Postby Ian Kendall » December 11th, 2008, 4:41 pm

I'm fairly sure it was just called The Endless Chain, with the usual Ganson Teach In leader. Pink cover, if I recall. Unfortunately it seems to have gone AWOL from by bookshelves :(

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Re: Ganson Teach-In Series

Postby Andrew Pinard » December 11th, 2008, 5:00 pm

Thanks to Ian for his clarification... It is likely that The Endless Chain belongs in the list...

Several titles were produced by Supreme in that same format but were not technically titles in this series.

I have found more information (thanks to Doug Atkinson: http://magicref.tripod.com/magref/magchain.htm) that refers to The Endless Chain pamphlet thus:

Ayling, Will (with Lewis Ganson, Fred Lowe, and Rex Taylor): The Endless Chain. Moves, ideas, patter presentations and routines. Photographed by Will Ayling; in the Supreme 'Know-How' series, Bideford, The Supreme Company, 1983, 44 pg.

Yet it also refers to another pamphlet with Ganson's name associated with it in this way:

Brooke, Ken: The Endless Chain. Instructions by Lewis Ganson. Copyright by Harry Stanley "Unique Magic Studio" London W.1.4 pg. A4

It's quite possible that these are essentially the same titles (or that the 1983 title is an expanded version of the Stanley booklet). In either case, Ganson is not referred at the primary author. The time makes it likely and the description would put it in the series, but would love to confirm with an owner...

Anyone got a copy of any of the latter three titles and can confirm their inclusion?

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Re: Ganson Teach-In Series

Postby Ian Kendall » December 11th, 2008, 5:55 pm

Hmmm, *jogs memory*. It could have been that I had the Supreme version. The layout and style were very typically the same as the other titles I had.

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Re: Ganson Teach-In Series

Postby Joe Pecore » December 11th, 2008, 6:15 pm

If you like, you can use this MagicPedia page to coordinate the results or all this information you are gathering: http://geniimagazine.com/wiki/index.php ... -In_Series
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Re: Ganson Teach-In Series

Postby Edwin Corrie » December 11th, 2008, 6:29 pm

Supreme's 1986 Indexed Catalogue for Books and Publications (Part 2) gives a full list of all 17 Teach-Ins and 3 Know-Hows, which were apparently the same size and format as the Teach-Ins. It says:

"Will Ayling took on the mantle of his friend Lewis Ganson to continue the [Teach-In] series under the banner of "Know-How" books."

The Know-How titles listed are:

Catching a Marked Bullet in the Teeth (by Frank Sinclair)
The Endless Chain (by Will Ayling)
Indian Cups and Balls (by P.K. Ilango)

Catalogue No. 33 (from 1983) announces the Endless Chain book as the first in the series and also lists the Bullet Catching book.

All three of the above also appeared in Supreme's 1985 Book List. I also remember a couple of other titles, which I believe were all by Will Ayling:

Knowing the Rising Cards
Knowing the Egg Bag
Knowing the Ropes
Knowing the Chop Cup

I just tried googling these and you get a lot of hits. One (http://www.magicpromotionclub.ch/Kurzbio%20A.htm, which contains biographies of Will Ayling and many others - in German) gives dates of 1988 for the Egg Bag book and 1991 for the Rising Cards, and you can probably find dates for the others.

Hope this helps. It certainly brought back some memories for me.

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Re: Ganson Teach-In Series

Postby Andrew Pinard » December 11th, 2008, 7:19 pm

Thanks Edwin. It looks like my list is complete for the "Teach-In" series (now I just have to get my hands on "The Sympathetic Silks" book)..

I thought the "Know-How" listing was just faulty memory, but now I see it is not!

Maybe Joe can update the magi-pedia page to reflect the findings?

Thanks for your help,

Andrew

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Re: Ganson Teach-In Series

Postby Joe Pecore » December 11th, 2008, 8:17 pm

Andrew Pinard wrote:
Maybe Joe can update the magi-pedia page to reflect the findings?


OK. I tried. Please review ;-)
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Re: Ganson Teach-In Series

Postby Mike Remington » December 11th, 2008, 9:00 pm

On the Ayling books (Supreme 'Know-How' Series):

Knowing the Ropes Featuring the Rope Magic of Edward Victor Shigeo Takagi Harry Carnegie (copyright 1987)

Knowing the Chop Cup (and other one cup-one ball routines)(copyright 1989)
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Re: Ganson Teach-In Series

Postby Andrew Pinard » December 11th, 2008, 10:27 pm

Okay Joe:

I finally logged in and updated the page to what I saw as the most accurate list so far...

This is a great way to collaborate and make a (reasonably) accurate list.

Also, many of the booklets have multiple copyright dates. It is perhaps best to use the original copyright date and refer to later printings in parenthesis; e.g. - 1987 (1990). Although academically the earliest date is most significant, the number of printings and the corresponding dates can be of interest to the collectors.

Thanks for all your help guys (Are you still there Van?) ;o)

ajp

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Re: Ganson Teach-In Series

Postby Edwin Corrie » December 12th, 2008, 3:22 am

Andrew Pinard wrote:It looks like my list is complete for the "Teach-In" series (now I just have to get my hands on "The Sympathetic Silks" book)...


There's one for sale here:

http://illusionsolution.com/index.php

If you enter ["Will Ayling" "Knowing the"] as a search string in Google you get a lot of hits for all of them, and some (e.g. the eBay ones) give publication details and tables of contents. The Chop Cup and Egg Bag books can be found at http://magicref.tripod.com/books.htm .

The Magicpedia page is a great place for this information. I don't think "Rink's Rope & Rings" was part of the series though (see the image here , along with lots of other interesting looking books), and "Phoney" may well have been a separate manuscript too.

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Re: Ganson Teach-In Series

Postby Andrew Pinard » April 29th, 2009, 8:26 am

CONFIRMED COMPREHENSIVE LIST:
A Fantasy In Thimbles: Werry's Fantastic Thimbles - 1979
A New Look at Card Fans 1978
A New Look At the Okito Box 1983
Bernard's Lesson On Coin Magic - 1978
Bernard's Lesson On Dice Stacking 1979
Colombini's Cups and Balls - 1977
Mark Weston's Continuous Cigarette Production - 1977
Matching the Cards - 1977
Rings Supreme: Aldo Colombini's Presentation of the Linking Rings - 1978
Rovi Reveals - 1980
The Floating and Dancing Cane - 1977
The Hindu Thread Trick often referred to as The Gypsy Thread 1980
The Sympathetic Silks 1977
The Three Card Monte as Entertainment - 1980
Three Chinese Rings - 1977
Two in the Hand and One In The Pocket - 1979
Zombie: The Floating Ball - 1977

I now have copies of all in hand and own or have handled most of the Ayling titles which I do not believe should be considered part of the Ganson Teach-In Series. They are a different size, author and most have the "Knowing The..." in the title and should be considered a separate series.

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Re: Ganson Teach-In Series

Postby Dale Shrimpton » April 29th, 2009, 9:24 am

is this list being complied for martin breese? I know he is thinking of publishing them under one cover soon.

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Re: Ganson Teach-In Series

Postby Van McGee » May 2nd, 2009, 12:27 am

Many thanks to Andrew Pinard for doing the research on this.

Van



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