Card cheating footage

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Card cheating footage

Postby Jason England » August 26th, 2008, 7:01 am

Does anyone here know the identity of the "unknown" card mechanic that is shown in a brief (maybe 10 minutes or so) clip doing breakoffs, second and bottom deals (bottom deal has some finger flash), false shuffle and some hops/shifts?

I believe the name that is listed at the beginning of the clip is "Santana," but I have no further information. The clip is B&W, and appears to have been shot in the 50s or 60s.

Any help would be great.

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Re: Card cheating footage

Postby Magic Newswire » August 26th, 2008, 10:50 am

Where are you seeing this footage?

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Re: Card cheating footage

Postby Jason England » August 26th, 2008, 2:20 pm

It has circulated privately on VHS (and more recently on DVD) for many years.

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Re: Card cheating footage

Postby Magic Newswire » August 26th, 2008, 11:52 pm

Hmm.. can't help much then as I haven't seen it. Given the lack of response to the inquiry.. I assume few if any others here have as well. Anyone wanna pass it on for digital conversions which might then inspire further discussion?

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Re: Card cheating footage

Postby amp » August 27th, 2008, 12:09 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sgwkwy2FXw
There's this of John Scarne.

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Re: Card cheating footage

Postby Jason England » August 27th, 2008, 6:16 pm

It's definitely not John Scarne, it's not Artanis, it's not Jim Cooper.

We know what all of those men look like. This guy is a mystery, yet he had good chops and did quite a bit of stuff.

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Re: Card cheating footage

Postby Cugel » August 28th, 2008, 4:24 am

It's probably Frank Thompson, or that guy who owned Magic Inc before Jay Marshall.

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Re: Card cheating footage

Postby Bill Wells » August 28th, 2008, 9:08 am

I don't think it was Frank Thompson, I couldn't smell the Rum River Crook Cigar.
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Re: Card cheating footage

Postby Cugel » August 28th, 2008, 9:33 am

Then it's that other guy. You know. The guy. The other one.

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Re: Card cheating footage

Postby Pete McCabe » August 28th, 2008, 11:34 am

I'll tell you this -- it's not me.

I don't know how much that helps, though.

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Re: Card cheating footage

Postby Magic Newswire » August 28th, 2008, 2:21 pm

Yeah.. its that guy.. him..

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Re: Card cheating footage

Postby Geno Munari » August 28th, 2008, 3:29 pm

There are a few guys that come to mind. A guy named Ray Murray, or Trellis Dinsmore???? Both were terrific bust out guys.

If you post a link to it I may be able to identify it. I have a copy of a book on blackjack cheating that a another (Las Vegas)guy wrote with pictures. I will look it up and post the name.

Another real talented guy that would fit the era would be Mike Sarkis.
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Re: Card cheating footage

Postby psc » August 28th, 2008, 3:51 pm

Cugel wrote:It's probably Frank Thompson, or that guy who owned Magic Inc before Jay Marshall.


That other guy? Do you mean Frances' husband? That guy from "Ireland"? Well, anything is possible...

Frank Shields did some film in the 60's - could be him...

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Re: Card cheating footage

Postby Richard Kaufman » August 28th, 2008, 4:08 pm

Paul, good to see you back on the Forum.
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Re: Card cheating footage

Postby psc » August 28th, 2008, 4:32 pm

Thanks Richard, it's nice to be back...

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Re: Card cheating footage

Postby johnmali » February 3rd, 2013, 5:00 am

after all these years, do we know who is the guy on that video? Is there any footage of Artanis or F Thompson maybe?

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Re: Card cheating footage

Postby prodigy » September 1st, 2015, 2:38 am

I'm quite curious too, any ideas who this Santana was?

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Re: Card cheating footage

Postby mr_goat » September 1st, 2015, 4:13 am

prodigy wrote:I'm quite curious too, any ideas who this Santana was?


I think he played the guitar.
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Re: Card cheating footage

Postby Leo Garet » September 2nd, 2015, 1:03 pm

Santana:
Wasn't he at The Alamo?


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