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Postby Jason England » 08/26/08 07:01 AM

Does anyone here know the identity of the "unknown" card mechanic that is shown in a brief (maybe 10 minutes or so) clip doing breakoffs, second and bottom deals (bottom deal has some finger flash), false shuffle and some hops/shifts?

I believe the name that is listed at the beginning of the clip is "Santana," but I have no further information. The clip is B&W, and appears to have been shot in the 50s or 60s.

Any help would be great.

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Postby Magic Newswire » 08/26/08 10:50 AM

Where are you seeing this footage?
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Postby Jason England » 08/26/08 02:20 PM

It has circulated privately on VHS (and more recently on DVD) for many years.

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Postby Magic Newswire » 08/26/08 11:52 PM

Hmm.. can't help much then as I haven't seen it. Given the lack of response to the inquiry.. I assume few if any others here have as well. Anyone wanna pass it on for digital conversions which might then inspire further discussion?
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Postby amp » 08/27/08 12:09 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sgwkwy2FXw
There's this of John Scarne.
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Postby Jason England » 08/27/08 06:16 PM

It's definitely not John Scarne, it's not Artanis, it's not Jim Cooper.

We know what all of those men look like. This guy is a mystery, yet he had good chops and did quite a bit of stuff.

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Postby Cugel » 08/28/08 04:24 AM

It's probably Frank Thompson, or that guy who owned Magic Inc before Jay Marshall.
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Postby Bill Wells » 08/28/08 09:08 AM

I don't think it was Frank Thompson, I couldn't smell the Rum River Crook Cigar.
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Postby Cugel » 08/28/08 09:33 AM

Then it's that other guy. You know. The guy. The other one.
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Postby Pete McCabe » 08/28/08 11:34 AM

I'll tell you this -- it's not me.

I don't know how much that helps, though.
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Postby Magic Newswire » 08/28/08 02:21 PM

Yeah.. its that guy.. him..
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Postby Geno Munari » 08/28/08 03:29 PM

There are a few guys that come to mind. A guy named Ray Murray, or Trellis Dinsmore???? Both were terrific bust out guys.

If you post a link to it I may be able to identify it. I have a copy of a book on blackjack cheating that a another (Las Vegas)guy wrote with pictures. I will look it up and post the name.

Another real talented guy that would fit the era would be Mike Sarkis.
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Postby psc » 08/28/08 03:51 PM

Cugel wrote:It's probably Frank Thompson, or that guy who owned Magic Inc before Jay Marshall.


That other guy? Do you mean Frances' husband? That guy from "Ireland"? Well, anything is possible...

Frank Shields did some film in the 60's - could be him...

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Postby Richard Kaufman » 08/28/08 04:08 PM

Paul, good to see you back on the Forum.
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Postby psc » 08/28/08 04:32 PM

Thanks Richard, it's nice to be back...
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Postby johnmali » 02/03/13 06:00 AM

after all these years, do we know who is the guy on that video? Is there any footage of Artanis or F Thompson maybe?
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