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Postby Kevin Connolly » 07/29/08 01:10 AM

Does anyone have a clue who this guy was? On The back is written Compliments Of Houdini.

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Postby Richard Kaufman » 07/29/08 10:28 AM

That's General Ullyses S. Grant at age 19.



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Postby Gord » 07/29/08 12:09 PM

Roy Scheider?
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Postby Kevin Connolly » 07/29/08 12:50 PM

Not Scheider. No shark in the photo. :blush:

Rich, maybe you meant U.F. Grant? :whistle:

This guy may not even been a magician. Maybe he was a spiritualist, actor, author, etc. It was taken in Paris, if that helps. :confused:
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Postby Gord » 07/29/08 01:07 PM

I googled the words at the bottom of the photo and came up with this.

"Andre Adolphe-Eugene Disderi: French photographer (1819 - 1889): He started off as a daguerreotypist in Brest as well as a photographer in Nimes. He opened a studio in 1854 and in that year he patented the carte-de-visite photograph. This new carte format became immensely popular and rapidly became a growing industry. He became the favorite photographer of Napoleon III's court. By 1861 Disdri was reported to be the richest photographer in the world. In addition to his French accolades, he was appointed court photographer in England, Spain, and Russia. He opened an additional studio in London. However, by the 1860s there was a decline in the popularity in the 1860s. Disdri left Paris and opened portrait studios in Nice in the 1880s. Despite the wealth he attained, Disdri died in a poorhouse."

Doesn't explain who it is, but still quite interesting.

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Postby Kevin Connolly » 07/29/08 01:42 PM

Thanks for the info. That's the guy. I had one message that said it may be Washington Irving Bishop.
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Postby Jim Maloney » 07/29/08 02:05 PM

Looks like it could be Guiseppe Verdi: photo

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Postby Bob Gerdes » 07/29/08 03:11 PM

I think we have a winner!
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Postby Kevin Connolly » 07/29/08 03:20 PM

Jim,

You did do some research. Way to go! I'm impressed! I saw this last night, but I didn't want tip it. With you and Bob thinking the same, I feel more confident.

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Postby Gord » 07/29/08 04:18 PM

I didn't know Guiseppe Verdi and Roy Scheider were the same man.

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Postby Richard Kaufman » 07/29/08 07:29 PM

I still think it's Ulysses S. Grant.
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Postby mai-ling » 07/29/08 08:04 PM

woa tonto...

in all my years studying music,
i never seen a young looking verdi.
we only see what the composer looks
like a few years before they die.
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Postby Kevin Connolly » 07/29/08 08:13 PM

No problem Kemosabe. Do a Google search, under images and you'llsee 2 other photos from the same sitting. I would guess they are from the 1850's.

I wish it was Grant too. Oh well. I'll have settle with Joe Green aka Giuseppe Verdi.
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Postby mai-ling » 07/29/08 09:11 PM

Verdi was Opera King...
so settling with Verdi is quite awesome Kevin.

If you got Wagner, I wouldn't know what to say.
Except that his father-in-law Liszt probably gave
him more credibility than the ring cycle.
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Postby mai-ling » 07/29/08 09:17 PM

oh wait...

Wagner and Houdini would never be in the same room together.
or should I say, wagner would never be in the same room
with Houdini.
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Postby Kevin Connolly » 07/29/08 10:37 PM

Wagner was probably in the same room as Houdini. In Houdini's collection that is!

Verdi may be the opera king, but he's not on a $50 bill. ;)
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Postby Richard Hatch » 07/29/08 11:37 PM

The photographer, Disderi, had his studio above the Theatre Robert-Houdin in Paris (8, Boulevard des Italiens) from 1854 onward. In fact, Robert-Houdin's brother-in-law and successor, Hamilton, was his landlord during this period, and several of the most famous images of Robert-Houdin were taken by Disderi.
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Postby mai-ling » 07/30/08 12:27 AM

Kevin Connolly wrote:Wagner was probably in the same room as Houdini. In Houdini's collection that is!


you think?

Even though Wagner was a anti-semite.
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Postby Kevin Connolly » 07/30/08 01:19 AM

mai-ling wrote:
Kevin Connolly wrote:Wagner was probably in the same room as Houdini. In Houdini's collection that is!


you think?

Even though Wagner was a anti-semite.




I think he would. He had the second largest theatre collection in the world.
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Postby Kevin Connolly » 07/30/08 01:24 AM

Richard...Now that with be great. A Houdin photo with a Houdini inscription. Oofa!
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Postby Kevin Connolly » 07/30/08 09:59 AM

Christian puts a bow on the whole thing. Great find!

Great from all...THANKS!

Now....What is the connection with Houdini? A gift to whom?
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Postby mai-ling » 07/30/08 03:35 PM

it is possible that houdini attended
a opera that verdi wrote while he
was on tour.

or during the time when one of verdi's
opera's premiered in paris...

you said houdini had a large collection
of theatre stchuff.

throwing guesses here.
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Postby Jim Roberts » 07/30/08 05:39 PM

"Tonight's opening is made possible through the generous checks of Mrs. Claypool. I am sure the strains of Verdi will be returning to us tonight just as Mrs. Claypool's checks will be returning in the morning"-Otis B. Driftwood
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Postby Kevin Connolly » 07/31/08 09:57 AM

I think the photo was a gift of some kind. I have had other items that Houdini had given to people and he inscribed them too. Most likely it came from his collection.
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