Roger M. wrote:What's the deal with ragging on Jim?
He's said MULTIPLE times that he DOESN'T build the props, and only puts forth the questions about when it might be OK to do so, and when it's not OK to do so.
Folks need to chill the ____ out.
Everybody loves Tommy Wonder, and nobody who's posted to this thread has done anything resembling taking his name or memory in vain.
Or is it just about continuing the argument until somebody feels like they've won?
BTW, this is ALL ethics, there's no "law" anywhere to be found in this discussion. When it's ethics we're discussing, let's do it from a position of polite discourse as opposed to the insults and put downs.
Or maybe I'm just overly sensitive and need my rest........
go back to the beginning and pick up where Jim came back at Bill with some inuendos and name calling and it rolled from there.
While some still exibit more human qualities these days primal instinct to react to name calling etc is inevidible in alot of cases these days.
Some times this makes Jim look bad, as it would with anyone, but I wouldn't so much call it Ragging. I made an earlier post that was nothing short of blabber just to lighten the atmosphere. This is just the way Jim is, we should accept it, embrace it and just move on.
Jim is a helluva a machinest and craftsman, bar none. I think we can all agree that the only interest and acceptibility is to help the TW name and estate. That should remain the focus and any help that the Wonder estate gets should be welcome.
Ken Winters came to me over and over for marketing the TW Cups & Balls routine. I insisted that he have the estate call me or hardcopy mail me expressing permission to do so. This never happend, so neither did the cups. I offered to make one personal set for him as per the books outline, which I agree with Jim is not a violation of the rights of the estate. Ken opted not to due to price and expressed an appauling reply to my quote on making a custom set of chucks and single set of cups.
The idea of "Can't we all just get along?" is a nice idea, but a more realistic one is to all work together, I think that is a more realistic approach.
So why don't we all give it a shot, try it out, work together and try to help the estate, it just may work.