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Postby Tom Dobrowolski » 05/18/08 05:17 PM

"All Done By Kindness." David Devant
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Postby Brad Jeffers » 05/18/08 06:14 PM

There is an Indian proverb that says "Magic is a sea in which a gnat may drink and an elephant may bathe".

O.K., the proverb actually refers to the game of Chess ("Chess is a sea ..."), but I think you can substitute the word Magic.

It's akin to the Burger "many rooms" quote.
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Postby Mallakite » 05/18/08 08:01 PM

I'm not sure who said this, maybe someone here knows.

"Magicians guard an empty safe"
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Postby Richard Hatch » 05/18/08 08:11 PM

I believe that is from Jim Steinmeyer.
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Postby Jim Maloney » 05/18/08 08:15 PM

Mallakite wrote:I'm not sure who said this, maybe someone here knows.

"Magicians guard an empty safe"

Check the first page of this thread. ;)

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Postby 000 » 05/19/08 05:30 AM

My own favourite quote, after performing at a correctional intitute ( read prison) as I regularly do.

I HAD A CAPTIVE AUDIENCE
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Postby 000 » 05/19/08 06:45 AM

Before I forget, my own final favourite quote is

HELL KNOWETH NO FURY AS THE MAGICIAN WHOSE PROPCASE IS STOLEN FROM THE CARBOOT PRIOR TO THE PERFORMANCE
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 05/19/08 11:47 AM

That's what happened to Bob Read and he never performed his "Penultimate Cups and Balls" for many years after his props were stolen.
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Postby Pete McCabe » 05/19/08 01:29 PM

"My main goal is to fascinate the audience
into thinking that they are dreaming,
even if this is only for a few seconds."
--Juan Tamariz


This quote encapsulates everything I believe about magic.
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Postby Andrew Pinard » 05/19/08 02:43 PM

Harry Brandon to his son Arthur Brandon (Milo of Milo & Roger):

"Arthur, I see that magic is really just a lot of [censored]."

"Yes, Pop, you've got it. It is," young Arthur Brandon rejoined. "But you've got to know just how to shovel it."

From Milo & Roger: A Magical Life by Arthur Brandon. Published by Hermetic Press, page 113.

My second favorite book.
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Postby Bill McFadden » 05/19/08 05:02 PM

"Take is better than put."
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Postby Brian Morton » 05/19/08 09:45 PM

"The profession of magician is one of the most perilous and arduous of the imagination. On the one hand, there is the hostility of God and the police to be guarded against; on the other, it is as difficult as music, as deep as poetry, as ingenious as stagecraft, as nervous as the manufacture of high explosives and as delicate as the trade in narcotics." William Bolitho, English author, 1890-1930

"[Magic] is a terribly hard art form ... to compose a new tune in magic, you don't just write the notes, you build the piano." - Teller

Scully: "So, who do we arrest? David Copperfield?" Mulder: "Yes. But not for this." -- The X-Files.

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Postby 000 » 05/20/08 01:55 AM

Good one Brian.

NO HONOUR AMONGST THIEVES

To all performers, dealers and manufacturers who rip off ideas of others and seek to profit from them

To the Chief Genii....what about printing a little booklet ( for the loo) 101 magical quotes or something like that...im sure theres many more good ones around....I know id buy one....just a thought Chief.
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Postby Randy » 05/20/08 03:56 PM

John Carney once gave me advice that I believe he got from Dai Vernon. The quote was simply "Attitude". Before taking the stage, remind yourself to have that "attitude" of confidence, fun and of loving your audience. It's a thought that has carried me far beyond magic and that I try to apply to life in general. A simple, one word thought that conveys so much.
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Postby 000 » 07/15/08 12:43 AM

by Jamy ian Swiss ( Penguin Magic interview)

'Eugene Burger says that that the house of magic has many rooms, but many of magic's enthusiasts are locking themselves into their own rooms and barely bumping into anyone else in the hallway'
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Postby Tom Frame » 07/15/08 01:18 PM

"Using words to describe magic is like using a screwdriver to slice roast beef." --- Tom Robbins
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Postby Doc Eason » 07/15/08 01:31 PM

Magic does indeed have many rooms, some of which are padded.
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Postby 000 » 07/15/08 02:00 PM

Money and fame are not goals: money and fame are things you may receive for achieving other actual goals

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Postby mai-ling » 07/15/08 03:54 PM

dad always said this when used the bang gun without the bang
didn't work.

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Postby Darryl Harris » 07/15/08 03:57 PM

"The object of art is to evoke an emotion. All art is drama. Technique is what allows us to bring drama to it maximum intensity." ~ Wynton Marsalis
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Postby MaxNY » 07/16/08 08:32 AM

We were at the Cape last week, with my Dad, and my 22 month old son. My son is at the age where he thinks he is funny, and has a loud "PR" laugh to get noticed...That laugh happened, and my Dad looked at me like?????? I just shrugged my shoulders and said... "The clown doesn't fall far from the tree!"
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Postby Mats Kjellstrom » 07/16/08 02:28 PM

Some remarks from Fred Kaps fine lecture notes (1973), Ken Brookes Magic Place, London.

- Do you want to Mystify? Or entertain? Or both?

- Effect should come first. Method second.

- Mental train your effects.

- Fool your audience any way you like, but FOOL them.
Remember - Method comes second!
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Postby Mats Kjellstrom » 07/16/08 02:44 PM

Tom Harris:

- Make mistakes and use them for laughs.

- Make your entrance in your style of your act.
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Postby Mats Kjellstrom » 07/16/08 02:49 PM

Stoogie:

- There is one thing that experienced performers do not need and beginners will not take, and that is advice.
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Postby Q. Kumber » 07/16/08 04:36 PM

At his February lecture in Manchester, Jeff McBride said two things that struck me:

"If your sleight of hand causes you to break eye contact with your audience, it is too advanced for your skill level."

and

"An artist makes the difficult look easy but a showman makes the simple look spectacular."
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Postby Bob Farmer » 07/16/08 04:46 PM

Quentin, those are great quotes. In a very early issue of The Gen, there is a marvellous lesson by John Ramsay on the first point. It's a thimble vanish. If you have the electronic version, you can probably find it easily.
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Postby Lemniscate » 07/16/08 06:09 PM

Information is "Tomatoes are really a fruit"; knowledge is not putting them in a fruit salad.

No idea who said it originally but it was repeated by "docsteve" over on the cafe (do a search for fruit salad and look for his name for the original post).
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Postby 000 » 07/17/08 01:48 AM

Magician's shouldnt gamble for 2 reasons. If you lose you're a bad magician, and if you win you're a cheat!

People never ask me how I do card tricks. They ask me why!


( From a recommended booklet Darwins 201 Jokes for Card Magicians. Unfortunately each contribution is not seperately credited)
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Postby amp » 07/17/08 08:36 AM

" Magic, remember,is a voyage of self-discovery"
-Eugene Burger
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Postby Cugel » 07/17/08 08:50 AM

amp wrote:" Magic, remember,is a voyage of self-discovery"
-Eugene Burger


Whoah. Deep.
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Postby Jonathan Townsend » 07/17/08 09:51 AM

amp wrote:" Magic, remember,is a voyage of self-discovery"


? "self-discovery"?? the term used to justify home schooling for the a/anti social or perhaps just a PC term for masturbation?

Either way - if the shoe fits - leave it in.

So much fuss to avoid opening a book and taking that great risk of learning.
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Postby EdAndres » 07/17/08 02:20 PM

Lemniscate wrote:(do a search for fruit salad and look for his name for the original post).


Now that's a quote! :grin:
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Postby amp » 07/17/08 04:13 PM

If you're going to be an artist,and you're going to have a chance to be great,you have to risk looking foolish in high places sometimes.You have to paint a big target on your ass and go, all right,everybody step up. Here it is take your best shot.
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Postby amp » 07/17/08 04:17 PM

Presentation is everything,method is nothing.

-Fred Kaps


...that effect should always come first,method second.
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Postby Cugel » 07/17/08 05:26 PM

Funny, then, that Kaps used some pretty terrific methods.
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Postby Tom Stone » 07/17/08 11:39 PM

Cugel wrote:Funny, then, that Kaps used some pretty terrific methods.

I think you misinterpret the quote. I think he meant "Don't compromise or diffuse the effect, by adjusting it for a certain method."
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Postby Tom Stone » 07/17/08 11:59 PM

- "Good magic is better than good sex, but harder to find" - Max Maven.

-"Good magic begins in the feet!" - Bob Read

(The second quote isn't a reply to the first)
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Postby Q. Kumber » 07/18/08 04:12 AM

When Bob Read lectured in Dublin in the 1970's he said "Good comedy begins in the feet." Did he later cahnge that to magic?
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Postby Cugel » 07/18/08 04:26 AM

Tom Stone wrote:
Cugel wrote:Funny, then, that Kaps used some pretty terrific methods.

I think you misinterpret the quote. I think he meant "Don't compromise or diffuse the effect, by adjusting it for a certain method."


I was actually referring to the first Kaps quote. Looking at the second quote, I concede that you might be right.

But I'm also right in the sense that a literal interpretation of the first quote would produce magic with methods inferior to those Kaps used.

It's all good.
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Postby Cugel » 07/18/08 04:30 AM

"The answer to 99% of all questions posted on any magic forum is 'Because you suck.'"

- Mark Ennis (apocryphal)
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