Ungimmicked 20th Century Silks

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Postby Ryan Matney » 10/14/07 11:48 AM

Could someone please direct me to a source for the ungimmicked 20th Century Silks. There are probably several versions. I just need to know how to load an 18inch silk hidden in another 18inch silk to tie the knots and produce the hidden silk.

I'm pretty sure I have it but want to be sure I'm not missing anything.
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Postby Guest » 10/14/07 03:52 PM

Check out Rice's Encyclopedia.

Postby Guest » 10/15/07 04:43 AM

what your looking for, is the Vernon 20th cent silks.

The silks are prepaired, but there not gimmicked.
you just place 2 loose silks into a cone of paper, vanish a 3rd, and presto, all 3 are removed tied from the cone.( which is also ungimmicked)

Its in rice, but i originaly found it in a very early copy of Gen.

Postby Michael Pascoe » 10/31/07 07:27 PM

Ive seen a non gimmick version that works the same as the gimmicked ones. Im not sure if this is something Ive been thinking about or I saw it somewhere like Tarbell. Basically you fold one of the silks around the one to be produced and make a bag like the gimmick one. If I can find it, Ill share the source with you.
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Postby Guest » 11/01/07 10:30 AM

Alexander De Cova has a version of this trick on one of his "Treasures" videos. The silks aren't gimmicked, but other stuff is. It's quite a fooler.

Postby Guest » 11/01/07 05:49 PM

My favorite version is the Douglas 20th Century, described in the Rice Encyclopedia, but also it it still the main version sold by Silk King Studios:


You can use the silks alone to perform a straight ungimmicked silk version of the 20th century, but the Douglas ball makes it so much easier and adds a different element of surprise at the end.

Postby Richard Kaufman » 11/01/07 09:01 PM

I used to do the "Douglas" 20th Century Silks when I was a kid and into billiard ball magic. Don't you have to stuff the ball into your mouth at one point? Think I got tired of that ball smelling like spit after a while.
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