As a matter of fact it looks like IS the same people ( previewmagicdvds.com ). Interesting.Originally posted by Rick Ruhl:
Is this the same site as mentioned in this thread?
http://geniimagazine.com/forum/cgi-bin/ ... 935#000000
Press charges for what Jon? I put his address in over in the white pages online and that's what came up. It's in the public record, since he has a listed phone number.Originally posted by Jonathan Townsend:
Perhaps a lawyer in case they press charges? [/b]Originally posted by Rick Ruhl:
I already posted his name, address and phone number... what else do you need?
There have been some issues with local police and officials being harassed. Posting that data here or anywhere could lead to accusations of complicity if any harassing behavior follows.Originally posted by Rick Ruhl:
...Press charges for what Jon? I put his address in over in the white pages online and that's what came up. It's in the public record, since he has a listed phone number....
I would count myself in that group, but would probably replace the word "is" with "are incredibly" and put the words "the relatively puny little world of" just after the word "than".Originally posted by Jonathan Townsend:
... Some hold that the law and free speech is more important than magic secrets and the current schema of selling magic product...
This is a very interesting topic. Netflix has been in business for a few years now, and the movie studios are not out of business. In fact, the other day I received a DVD from Netflix, and it turned out to have been a duplicate, made by Netflix. I assume they're not doing this on the sly, so I'm thinking they must have an agreement with the studio to allow Netflix to burn replacements of disks that become damaged. This would not happen if the studios felt that Netflix was damaging their business.Originally posted by Richard Kaufman:
The notion of "previewing" or renting DVDs in magic will drive folks who make magic DVDs out of business. Anyone who rents a DVD is helping to create a situation where fewer and fewer DVDs will be produced until there are none.
Then again you don't want to have performing rights or a "ticket" to talk to the director for that kind of movie - which kind of comes with the purchase of a legit copy of someone's magic offerings.Originally posted by Joshua Barrett:
... how many movies i bought that i rented? zero, why would I?
You don't have any need to keep a copy of Titanic on hand to refer to it after watching it. But if you rent a magic DVD and learn a trick, and then find -- after you return it -- that you can't remember all the details of the trick, you might well want to own the DVD.Originally posted by Joshua Barrett:
And as far as the rent then buy idea... thats a joke. i was a net flix member for a long time, guess how many movies i bought that i rented? zero, why would I?
What specifically leads you to believe such an agreement is required?Originally posted by TheDean:
I guess my question would be, does this video "renter" business have legal agreements with the artists, producers, owners of the video rentals in question...
Didn't say it is did I? If you READ, you will see again that I am ASKING a question. I am not a lawyer, nor do I play on here... hehehehe.What specifically leads you to believe such an agreement is required?
Your question was addressed directly earlier and in several place over the last few months. There is no such agreement required nor was one offered. What studios have done is offer early product exclusively to rental companies via trade shows and trade journals so the places like blockbuster could rent out the product for a while before it became available for purchase to customers. That is also why the replacement cost of those items was much higher than ordinary consumer retail.Originally posted by TheDean:
...Do YOU have an answer to the question?
It's ALL in how we communicate. A wit suggested that a diplomat is a person who can tell someone to "go to he** and have them all excited about the trip and ready to pack.Originally posted by TheDean:
...Didn't say it is did I? If you READ, you will see again that I am ASKING a question. I am not a lawyer, nor do I play on here... hehehehe...
That is an excellent argument. Since the Tarbell Course and Greater Magic and The Royal Road to Card Magic appeared in public libraries in or around the 1950's, not a single new good book on magic has been published. Those that have been published since then are of lesser quality becauser the profit to support a good quality book publication simply isn't there in our little marketplace. Except, of course, for Jim Steinmeyer's books. Oh, yes, and one or two Kaufman and Company books. Maybe one or two Paul Osborne books. I might concede a Mickey Hades book here or there. But aside from that... well, maybe Mark Wilson's Course should be considered along with one or two others... I can't think of a single good book that has survived the mass exposure resulting from books appearing in free public libraries.Originally posted by Joe Pecore:
Spellbinder, I think the bigger issue is that it may lead to fewer good magic DVDs being produced.
Like Mr. Kaufman stated, the renting of magic DVDs may lead to fewer magic DVDs being made, and those that are will be of lesser quality because the profit to support a good production simply won't be there in our little marketplace.
Spellbinder,Originally posted by Spellbinder:
What is the difference between renting DVDs and borrowing a book (usually for free, but some libraries also have rental books or a fee system) from the public library. My first look at the complete set of Tarbell volumes many years ago was in a free public library, and I was able to take the books out for a month on my free library card. This has been going on for a very long time in one form or another. Are we concerned about magic exposure to "those others" or controling the publication of books and DVDs by anyone who can produce them (and today, that's just about everyone who wants to)? Keep in mind that at one time, we were "those others."