You might be right, Richard, about the compatability situation regarding TV viewing (vs. computer viewing).Originally posted by Richard Kaufman:
Matt, I think you're wrong about the NTSC/PAL thing. While a PAL DVD will play with no problem on your computer, PAL DVDs (region free ones, of course) will not play on your DVD deck attached to your TV.
Oh--and I think you SHOULD review the Derren Brown DVD for Genii. :)
Here in the UK, VCRs that play NTSC are commonplace, with multi-region DVD players starting to become popular (my best mate was given one by his wife this morning for his Christmas - lucky git!). From my experiences, if you try and play an NTSC tape in a non NTSC-playback machine you do not get any picture at all. Just a load of distortion with some of the sound filtering through.Originally posted by Bob Walder:
On the PAL/NTSC thing, you do need to be careful. NTSC videos and DVDs will appear in black and white on players/TVs which are PAL only, but I am not sure how it will work in reverse. You may get B&W, you may get nothing - perhaps somoene else can shed light on that.
Mr KOriginally posted by Richard Kaufman:
You may be able to watch a PAL DVD on your computer as long as it is region free, but if it is region encoded then you will have to change the region on your computer in order to watch it. My new Sony Vaio only allows me to change regions four or five times before it locks onto the last region and NEVER ALLOWS ME TO CHANGE IT AGAIN!
Corportions are run by greedy bastards--or did anyone really need to be told that.
What a ridiculous concept! What copyright laws are you breaking? You are not making a duplicate of the DVD - you still need to purchase the original. The people who lose out are the film distributors in whichever country you are based - the license money goes to whoever has distribution rights for Region 1 (or whichever region the DVD you purchased is from)Originally posted by Bill Mullins:
Just stirring the pot here . . .
Does anyone believe that hacking the region codes has the same ethical problems as making a duplicate on tape?
You are busting the same copyright laws, after all, plus the DMCA . . .
The ones that say that copyright owners not only have the right to restrict reproduction of their works, but also exhibition of their works (sect 106 of the copyright act). This is the same principle that says if you buy a magic video, you aren't allowed to charge people to see it at a showing, or to rent it out.Originally posted by Bob Walder:
What a ridiculous concept! What copyright laws are you breaking?
You'd think, wouldn't you. But while our friends in France and Japan can legally buy copies of the Disney film "The Song of the South", it isn't and probably never will be for sale legally in the United States.Believe me - if things were the other way around and it was the AMERICAN public which was on the receiving end of this "discrimination" you can bet things would have already been resolved!
Actually it is neither illegal NOR stealing - a legitimate copy of the DVD is purchased and is not used for rental purposes etc (so I am not sure which bits of the copyright and DMCA laws I am breaking either - perhaps you could enlighten me - you ARE a lawyer, aren't you, Bill?)It's not legal, it's stealing, and it's hypocritical to say otherwise.
When you "buy" computer software, you don't own it. You buy a license to use it under specific circumstances. This generally does not include permission to modify it. That's basic contract law.Originally posted by Elwood:
Why is hacking your [computer] DVD software illegal, Richard?
Surely you are entitled to alter software that you have bought and paid for in any way that you like, as long as it's for your own use.
Big Media copyright owners are generally interpreting this to mean that, among other things, you can't rewrite software, hack ROM's, strip copy protection measures, etc. This would include hacking a set-top DVD player. Courts have already determined that it means that you can't even write your own software, much less hack someone else's, that allows you to access material that you aren't otherwise allowed to access. Just because no
Sec. 1201. Circumvention of copyright protection systems
`(2) No person shall manufacture, import, offer to the public, provide, or otherwise traffic in any technology, product, service, device, component, or part thereof, that--
`(A) is primarily designed or produced for the purpose of circumventing a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title;
It is illegal under the DCMA, as posted above. It is stealing in the following sense: the original copyright owner has licensed his intellectual property to be used in a particular DVD region. If you go to such lengths to see it in another region, you are taking his property without his permission. I can't see how that is anything but stealing, but if you think the law says otherwise, please tell us how. Remember, if you buy a DVD, all you own is the plastic. The content still belongs to the copyright holder, and you have only bought a license to use it under certain circumstances. The owner gets to define those circumstances, not the user. This not only applies to making new copies, but to exhibition of the work as well.Actually it is neither illegal NOR stealing - a legitimate copy of the DVD is purchased and is not used for rental purposes etc (so I am not sure which bits of the copyright and DMCA laws I am breaking either - perhaps you could enlighten me - you ARE a lawyer, aren't you, Bill?)
The same is true in the UK apart from the first point - it is NOT illegal to import DVDs fro other regions for PERSONAL use only - you are not allowed to resell them (at least not in the sense of setting up shop to do it en masse)Originally posted by Richard Kaufman:
It is NOT illegal to import and resell or purchase Multi-Region DVD players in the United States.
It is NOT illegal to import and resell or purchase DVDs from other countries and regions in the United States.
Therefore, no illegal act occurs when you buy the machine and the DVDs and watch them!