Originally posted by Jim Grobe:
You might be right, TOM. How would you make it more essential?
I don't know really. But neither books nor envelopes has an essential role in the story, so that problem needs some thought. Either modify the story, so the books and envelopes makes sense in the context of the plot, or change the props to things that are already inherent in the story.
(In fact, I don't quite understand the purpose of the envelopes. Would it not work smoother to just have the books?)
Or change the effect to something that makes use of the story's plot:
Show five different books of childrens stories, and drop them in a big paper bag. Reach down into the bag. the audience hear you tear out a page from one of the books, but they can't see which book. You show the page, and its heading is "Cinderella". This inspires you to tell the joke about the older Cinderella.
Give the page to a spectator, and start to refer to the spectator in respectful terms, and call him "The Prince", and try to guide him to act as a royalty.
Take the five childrens books and place them in a row. Tell the audience that the Prince now will demonstrate the same uncanny ability that once led him to find the girl to whom the glass shoe fit - by finding the book to which the torn page fits.
The Prince decides on one of the books, and sure - that is the book from which the page was torn.
(Perhaps better to use a process of elimination to better build the effect).
Give the book as a gift to the Prince, and conclude: -"May you two live happily ever after!"
I don't know. Perhaps not a great example, but that's what I could come up with on this short notice - but I think that it illustrates what I meant earlier. The plot of the story and the effect should be more integrated.
By the way, I re-read your idea about using items collected in bags. Your idea is even better than first thought - and, it makes the story essential to the effect! WOW! I think youre on to something here TOM. Why not see if you can work out the details
Thanks! I'm flattered that you liked the idea. However, I'm not a mentalist, so I would not gain much from making the effort to invent the necessary methods. I thought that you just needed help to find a suitable effect for the Cinderella story, and since you seemed to be frustrated that the response didn't suit your framework of ideas, I thought that I would try to help out a bit.
I hope that you don't take this the wrong way, Jim. It's probably just a cultural or linguistic difference - but it feels like you are trying to act as a coach or drill instructor, and expect me to act as a participant in some kind of competition, and that makes me feel a bit awkward. I'd prefer a more relaxed discussion on equal terms.
(Since my grasp of the english language isn't complete, I might read in things between the lines that isn't really there. If so, I'm sorry that I misunderstood you).
- Tom Stone