Maven & Gilbreath Principle

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Postby Guest » 02/26/03 08:16 PM

When is Max Maven going to publish this book?

Any info

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Postby Richard Kaufman » 02/26/03 08:46 PM

Even the publisher, Stephen Minch, does not yet know when the manuscript will be delivered. I'm sure you'll see ads for it when publication draws near.
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Postby Philemon » 02/27/03 10:45 AM

Isn't this "REDIVIDER?"
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Postby Chris Aguilar » 02/27/03 11:07 AM

Originally posted by Philemon:
Isn't this "REDIVIDER?"
No, Redivider is based on the "Stay Stack" principal. It's the palindrome concept that is used, not Gilbreath.

For $15, Redivider is a damn fine investment that makes for some really fun reading. :)
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Postby Mark Tams » 02/28/03 07:56 AM

What is the Palindrome Concept?
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Postby Lance Pierce » 02/28/03 08:14 AM

Originally posted by Mark Tams:
What is the Palindrome Concept?
If you think of a Stay Stack arrangement, you pretty much have it. The stack is comprised of a mirrored arrangement of cards, where the first card is paired with the last card, the next to the first with the next to the last, and so on. Hence, the palindrome. As is typical of Phil, his explorations into what this principle has to offer are highly intriguing. In the effects and ideas here (dealing overall with packets of cards), some work with an arrangement of cards that are palindromic by value (where a black ace, for instance, is mirrored by another black ace), and others by position (where each palindromic pair totals a specific number). Several of the effects, particularly the last one in the book, are very strong.

It's a book worth getting, and Mr. Goldstein writes with a very friendly and appealing style. His humor is warm, and the entire booklet is a reading experience that's both pleasing and very educational (in more ways that oneor twoor six).

Andit's only $15. What a deal!

Cheers,

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Postby Mark Tams » 02/28/03 08:56 AM

Thanks so much Lance! Much appreciated! :) :)
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Postby Guest » 03/03/03 12:12 AM

At Max's lecture in Helsinki he told us that the book will appear in (the beginning of?) 2004!

/Goran
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Postby Guest » 03/03/03 11:01 AM

The book should be, without a doubt, a work of "terrifying beauty".
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Postby Guest » 03/06/03 01:31 AM

Originally posted by wert:
Originally posted by Philemon:
[b]Isn't this "REDIVIDER?"
No, Redivider is based on the "Stay Stack" principal. It's the palindrome concept that is used, not Gilbreath.

For $15, Redivider is a damn fine investment that makes for some really fun reading. :) [/b]
Also on the cover of REDIVIDER you can read in small letters; (No, not that principle, but a good one nonetheless.)

/Goran
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Postby Carl Mercurio » 03/17/03 02:51 PM

There's some nice stay stack work in The Complete Walton using Faros...
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Postby sjrwheeler » 12/16/11 05:06 PM

Hello,

did i miss this? or is this something thats still being made?

i'm fairly new to gilbreath but totally captivated by it.

thanks,

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Postby Richard Kaufman » 12/16/11 06:18 PM

No update about the publication of this book as far as I know.
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Postby Jonathan Pendragon » 12/19/11 05:47 AM

Who is Phil?
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Postby Andres Reynoso » 12/19/11 12:11 PM

Phil Goldstein. Maven published Redivider with that name.
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Postby Dustin Stinett » 12/19/11 01:07 PM

Im going to throw caution to the wind and guess that Jonathan was cracking wise since he knows that Max has not answered to Phil in the many decades he has known him.

I believe that it was with the republication of the Color Series under the title Prism (Hermetic Press, 2005) that Max stopped using Phil Goldstein on his (many) published works.

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Postby Jonathan Pendragon » 12/19/11 04:13 PM

You are a wise man.
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Postby El Harvey Oswald » 12/20/11 03:37 AM

Who is Max Maven?
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Postby Andres Reynoso » 12/20/11 01:43 PM

I suspected that. Was so 'extrange' Jonathan asked it :P
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Postby Curtis Kam » 12/20/11 06:47 PM

Just wanted to mention, until the Maven work is out, there's a very interesting essay on this principle (unifying the "two" principles) in Woody Aragon's "A Book in English".
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Postby Richard Hatch » 12/21/11 01:24 AM

Curtis Kam wrote:Just wanted to mention, until the Maven work is out, there's a very interesting essay on this principle (unifying the "two" principles) in Woody Aragon's "A Book in English".

There is also a nice chapter on it in Persi Diaconis' new book, Magical Mathematics, which includes his sleight-free handling of Herb Zarrow and Ron Wohl's U-Shuffle Poker. He also proves an "Ultimate Gilbreath Principle" and points out a connection between the Gilbreath Principles and the Mandelbrot set. Great book!
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Postby Mike Remington » 12/21/11 06:06 AM

Dustin Stinett wrote:I believe that it was with the republication of the Color Series under the title Prism (Hermetic Press, 2005) that Max stopped using Phil Goldstein on his (many) published works.


In the 1980's, at a time when I had not yet discovered Max's writing, I was in Magicland in Tokyo when a striking looking Westerner walked in speaking Japanese. I looked at the pictures on the wall above him and assumed this must be someone named Max Maven until I looked at the side wall and saw a very similar picture with the name Phil Goldstein on it. I was not sure which of the two people this was until I heard some of the young guys in the shop commenting on the strange conversation where Max-san was speaking Japanese and Siyoshi(?) was speaking English. Then I knew. Of course, in South-East Asia, where some people copy everything, I have seen the same striking look on Asians.
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Postby Jonathan Pendragon » 12/21/11 06:20 AM

There is also a whole chapter on the subject in Magical Mathematics.
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Postby Jonathan Pendragon » 12/21/11 12:08 PM

Sorry Richard, I missed your post. West and I went to Joan Lawton's Christmas dinner, so I was befuddled by food.
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Postby Atlas » 09/06/12 09:29 PM

I like Redivider, it sounds as though this book has been shelved?
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Postby Richard Kaufman » 09/06/12 10:39 PM

I believe that it will now be published by H&R, who are working with Norman Gilbreath.
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Postby Don Hendrix » 09/06/12 11:15 PM

This year, I have talked with Norman and with Charlie Randall, and Norman's book is being edited and should be published by H and R by the end of the year.
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Postby Atlas » 09/07/12 02:01 AM

Great news! I look forward to reading it!
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Postby Ted M » 09/07/12 09:18 AM

To what extent is Max involved?

Or is Max's long-anticipated opus on the Gilbreath Principle a different book from Norman's book?

(Whatever the configuration of authors, this is exciting news.)
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Postby El Harvey Oswald » 09/07/12 09:48 AM

I believe that Norman Gilbreath's book will in fact be out this year, or early next year.
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