Andrew is right. The Charlie Miller and Phoenix cups--copies of the Ross Bertram cups--are not well made. The Miller cups were very cheap, selling under $50 a set for a long time. Many of the Phoenix cups have been selling as "2nds" on ebay... because the spinning is very sloppy.
Ross Bertram's cups were perfectly spun and polished at the same level as the Danny Dew Fox cups.
Cellini's are OK, but wobbly as Andrew said. Gazzo makes a great large (not really Jumbo) cup but at $350 is a little pricey. I call them intermediate size.
Riser's cups are perfectly made but scarce.
There's a guy on ebay who sells "Glass cups for learning" who also makes a super high quality large cup but $500 a set. I believe they are imported from Iran.
The serious collector should look at all the links and pages on www.jamesriser.com
That's where you will find all you need to know.
If you want huge cups the Millenium Cups are fine and well made...
But remember if you use the JUMBO cups, how you going to load 'em? It almost means you need to use a "poacher's pouch" like the street workers.
For Chick cups, copper or nickle plate, see mine available from Joe Stevens... www.stevensmagici.com
link to galli galli cups.
stay tooned... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: