On Vernon's success, I remember when we were shooting some TV thing with Orson Welles and Kuda Bux at the Castle sitting at the bar watching Dai over across in his corner with some innocent visitors.
They obviously thought they had been cornered by some old fart intent on showing them a trick, and were impatiently patient. Vernon played it for all it was worth, chomping cigar, muttering.
They watched courteously for a time, then I saw them all, simultaneously, as if drawn by some invisible wires, bend forward with looks of uncomprehending utter astonishment.
My vote is, Vernon was a success.
Hey, Pete. Here is that picture: http://home.pinehurst.net/chappell/chappell.jpg
Did you ever get out in the garage, and past all the cars that must be there by now to look for any old, beat-up copper cups of yours?